Industry Cash Flowed To Drafters of Reform
Key Senator Baucus Is a Leading Recipient
July 21, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/llpfsb
As liberal protesters marched outside, Sen. Max Baucus sat down inside a San Francisco mansion for a dinner of chicken cordon bleu and a discussion of landmark health-care legislation under consideration by his Senate Finance Committee.
At the table on May 26 were about 20 donors willing to fork over $10,000 or more to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, including executives of major insurance companies, hospitals and other health-care firms.
"Most people there had an agenda; they wanted the ear of a senator, and they got it," said Aaron Roland, a San Francisco health-care activist who paid half price to attend the gathering. "Money gets you in the door. The only thing the other side can do is march around and protest outside."
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Caspian: Catch the Biernanke hearings addressing the continued lack of transparancy of the Fed . When it airs later pay particular attention to what has transpired over the last hour.
Biernanke refuses to commit to anything that tells banks to lend or divulge anything that the Goldman-Fed is dong with our money that was collected to correct real estate foreclosures and lending to offset job losses.
Catch the number of "I don't know's" Biernanke gives to the most important questions of who, what, where, and why... Biernanke is lending our money.
Lending w/o knowledge?
Go back over last weekends postings. Follow and connect the dots. See how clearly the Goldman/Fed through it's monetizing the likes of the IMF, Carlyle, with our tax dollars is doorbacking the American public.
Watch Barney Frank cut off the questioning time of anyone who gets to close to pressing biernanke into giving a concrete answer as to has it is that has been direct beneficiary of Fed policys.
THIS HEARING PROVIDES KEY INFORMATION RELEVANT IN EVERY WAY TO ALMOST EVERY PERSONAL DILEMMA FACED BY CITIZENS. USED PROPERLY PRESSURE CAN BE BROUGHT TO BEAR TO "DEMAND ANSWERS" LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD, ... AND MAKE IMMEDIATE CASH FLOW AND JOB CREATION THE PRIMARY ISSUE.
Biernanke in his own words stated clearly that in his judgment and under his plan that our nations woes continue to decline for yet another two years. Still his main concern is for banks and their solvency... over that of todays 15million American families unemployed which will have to increase expedentially over time. unless we have immediate funding for the recreation of life sustaining industries or new age innovation that support the domestic workforce we remain independent of other nations for our needs, whereby we can control supply of our own basic necessity needs and food supply. America cannot wait two more years for banks to recoup their losses on our backs. We will not be able to fend off any scheme that the NWO cartel throws at us.
Not that I am impressed with either party; but, if decent healthcare reform doesn't happen, I will lose whatever little shred of faith in governemnt that I have at this point.
111TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION H. R. 3200
To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce
the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes.
That should tell you all you need to know.
Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example - Translation 4 illegal aliens
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health care WILL b rationed
-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No “judicial review” against Govt Monop
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you’ll all be paid the same
PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.
PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries
PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “adv. care planning consult” will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates
PG 429 Lines 10-12 “adv. care consultation” may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?
PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage
Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs
Caspian: At appx 3:35-3:39pm EDT Peter Walliston testified that the AIG bailout was strategic cover for Goldman's projected losses. He in detail stated how little we American public and our business as policy holders stood to loose if AIG Goldman's accessory would have been allowed to go bankrupt. Don't miss it!
PROVING ONCE AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG THAT THE "TOO INTERCONNECTED TO FAIL", "TOO SECRETIVE TO BE ALLOWED TO EXIST" GOLDMAN-SACHS/FEDERAL RESERVE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY MORE POWER OVER AMERICAN ASSETS- THAN IT ALREADY HAS.
Not once so far in this entire hearing have we heard anything about reigning in the "global equity entities" which at a single moments notice could marshall in massive funding from international sources, and their ability to manipulate thew worlds stock pricing from foreign exchanges, long after American exchanges are closed, that would cause financial upheavels so great that they could in a single day eliminate their non "connected" competitors.
Caspian: At appx 3:35-3:39pm EDT Peter Walliston testified that the Federal Reserves series of AIG bailouts that haveamounted to well over $60b to date was "strategic cover" for Goldman's projected losses for their AIG holdings. He, in detail, stated how little we the American public and our businesses, as policy holders, stood to loose if AIG [Goldman's accessory] would have been allowed to go bankrupt. Don't miss it!
PROVING ONCE AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG THAT THE "TOO INTERCONNECTED TO FAIL", "TOO SECRETIVE TO BE ALLOWED TO EXIST" GOLDMAN-SACHS/FEDERAL RESERVE CABAL OF WELL CONNECTED ONE WORLD GOV'T EMMISSARIES MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY MORE POWER OVER AMERICAN ASSETS- THAN IT ALREADY HAS.
Not once, so far in this entire hearing have we heard anything about reigning in the "global equity entities" which at a single moments notice could marshall in massive funding from international sources, SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUNDS, WORLD BANK, IMF, EVEN FOREIGN TREASURIES OF CHINA AND RUSSIA]and their ability to manipulate the worlds stock pricing from foreign exchanges, long after American exchanges are closed, that would cause financial upheavels so great that they could in a single day eliminate their non "connected" competitors. Any regulatory legislation that falls short of addressing the impact of this possibility leaves open for NWO manipulators a Trojan horse the size of China to walk through. Who wants to pay the price of that lame excuse we all heard before -->" Ooooops! Sorry America, once again we didn't anticipate that"
John I just watched Alan Grayson Congressman from Florida question Bernanke about lending half a trillion dollars to the Europeans instead of Americans.
I think less time needs to be spent pulling the country apart and takling about who is doing what and start taking more action.
I am tired of all the childish name calling that neither solves anything nor moves us forward. There is a saying, "Either you are a part of the solution or you Are the problem".
Those who are talking about taking the president down need to remember that means taking us all down.
Health Care reform is needed yesterday. only those who have feel the process should slow down.
The Public Option is a farce just like the Bush Republican prescription bill for Seniors was a farce.
Single Payer is just like Medicare and no Americans are complaining about Medicare for Seniors.
P.S. John, when Bernanke was asked by Grayson who authorize the Federal Reserve to lend a half a Trillion dollars to Europe Bernanke replied: The Congress and Barney Frank said in 1914 and Ben said in 1913.
Watch CSpan 2 tonight at 10pm and see Special IG Neil Barofsky testify before Congress about how the Chase/Goldman/Federal Reserve has a lot to explain to the American public for it's secretive special interest lending practices which it refuses to disclose.
Count and note all of the citings and findings brought by Mr Barofsky and tell me exactly how many I have mischaracterized or have been wrong about. Enjoy!
IF YOU WANT TO ACCUSE ANYONE OF ATTEMPTING TO DESTROY THE FABRIC AND FINANCES OF THIS COUNTRY... NOW, YOU WILL FIND LITTLE DOUBT IN KNOWING THE PRINCIPAL PARTIES INVOLVED WHERE AND WHOM TO LOOK FOR. Enjoy! Happy hunting!
IF the Democrats obey President Obama's command and pass a health-care bill by the August recess, they'll be committing partisan suicide.
Obama's insistence that we completely remake our health-care system -- and do it two weeks after the first bill was marked up in the first committee -- is too arrogant by half. It smacks of the kind of overreaching of FDR's second term in 1937, when, after his landslide win in 1936, he tried to pack the Supreme Court to reverse its anti-New Deal rulings.
Americans are increasingly turning against Obama's program. A Washington Post poll has the plan's public approval below 50 percent; Rasmussen has it trailing 46-49.
For Obama to ride roughshod over Americans' rising concerns about a matter so intimate will be too much.
What's the rush? they'll ask. The bill isn't even slated to take effect until next year. You passed the stimulus package, they'll note, in a similar rush during the administration's first week -- only to see it fall flat. Now Obama aides are claiming the package was never intended to have much effect this year!
How, voters will ask, can we cover 50 million more people without any new doctors or nurses? The answer is to ration health care, with the government deciding who'll get hip and knee replacements, heart-bypass surgery and other medical treatments. And what does rationing mean? It means that the elderly will be denied care that they can now get whenever they want.
The Obama plan effectively repeals Medicare, putting a Federal Health Board between the elderly and their doctors. This board will instruct public and private insurance carriers on what procedures are to be approved, at what cost and for what patients.
The bulk of this rationing will fall on the elderly. We'll have to revisit the idea that the elderly have, in the words of former Colorado Gov. Dick Lamm, "a duty to die."
The more word gets out about what the bill contemplates, the firmer opposition will grow. That's why Obama wants to push it through now, while he retains some popularity.
And if the bill passes? The howls of protest from the elderly the first time they're denied care will be something to behold. It will become evident that the health-care resources being denied to the elderly are going instead to immigrants -- legal and not. The anger will be enormous and instant.
Most Americans aren't sick and don't use medical facilities often. But the elderly constantly stay in touch with their doctors and medical providers. The curtailment of that access will become immediately apparent -- and in more than enough time for the 2010 elections.
Some votes live on and on. People remember senators' votes on the Kuwait war resolution. President Bill Clinton chose Vice President Al Gore for the 1992 ticket largely based on Gore's vote in favor of the invasion. It sent a signal that Gore and he were a "new kind of Democrat."
This health-care vote is similarly consequential; it will linger for years.
WHEN Barack Obama pilfered Martin Luther King Jr.'s line about the "fierce urgency of now," he wasn't kidding. The line has come to define his presidency. His legislative strategy moves in two gears -- heedlessly fast and recklessly faster.
As with the stimulus package, Obama's health-care plan depends on speed. More important than any given provision, more important than any principle, more important than sound legislating is the urgent imperative to Do It Now.
Do it now, before anyone can grasp what exactly it is that Congress is passing. Do it now, before the overpromising and the dishonest justifications can be exposed. Do it now, before Obama's poll numbers return to earth and make it impossible to slam through ramshackle government programs concocted on the run.
Do it now, because simply growing government is more important than the practicalities of any new program.
The stimulus partly drives the rush on health care. The program was so ill-considered and so festooned with irrelevant liberal priorities as the price of hustling it through Congress that it becomes more of a drag for Obama every day. So health care has to be rushed through before Obama pays the full price for the failure of his previous rush job. Haste -- and waste -- makes for more haste.
Obama cultivated an image of cool during the campaign. Unrattled. Deliberate. Cerebral to a fault. Who knew he'd be in a panic to remake one-sixth of the economy by the first week of August of his first year in office?
Normally, the larger and more complex a bill is, the longer Congress takes to consider it. With the stimulus and cap-and-trade, Obama and the Democrats upended this rule of thumb by passing Byzantine, 1,000-page bills that no one had the time to read. When the work product is indefensible, deliberation is dangerous.
There's a touch of the guilty conscience about Obama's terrible rush. As if he knows he was elected as a moderate-sounding deficit hawk last year, and if he's going to pass an ambitious left-wing program, he must do it before the opposition builds.
Why else the mad dash? Obama noted in an interview with ABC News the other day that his health program won't be phased in until 2013. That's four years from now. The problem that Obama describes of rising health-care costs bankrupting the government is also a long-term issue, one that needn't be addressed in pell-mell fashion over the next two weeks.
But the longer Obama's health-care program marinates in the sun, the worse it smells.
Obama's signature line that anyone who likes his current coverage gets to keep it has been shown to be untrue in recent weeks. His rationale of passing a $1 trillion program to reduce costs is undermined every time the Congressional Budget Office analyzes a real Democratic proposal.
No wonder Obama wants to close down the debate before his rating on health care -- down to 49 percent in the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll -- drops any further.
Ramming through legislation without any assurance that it will work doesn't seem pragmatic or far-sighted. But for Obama's purposes, it is. His goal is nothing short of an ideological reorientation of American government. Putting in place the structures to achieve this change in the power and role of government is more important than how precisely it is accomplished.
The stimulus might not do much to stimulate the economy during the recession, but its massive spending creates a new baseline for all future spending. The cap-and-trade bill might not reduce carbon emissions during the next decade, but it creates a mechanism for exerting government control over a huge swath of the economy. ObamaCare might not work as advertised, but it will tip more people into government care and create the predicate for rationing and price controls.
Obama is an ideologue in a hurry. He wants to put American government on a radically different path.
Democrats encourage (despite what they "say") the murder of the unborn so why should it surprise anyone that as Bill F. has quoted:
"The bulk of this rationing will fall on the elderly. We'll have to revisit the idea that the elderly have, in the words of former Colorado Gov. Dick Lamm, 'a duty to die.'"
They won't be able to carry all the seniors on the medical rolls so expect incredible denials of service. Don't doubt it is coming just go above and read Big Bob's detailed analysis of the Healthcare Bill.
Before you tell me you are for Obama's healthcare, TELL ME WHY RICH CANADIANS COME HERE FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT.
Obama believes in getting rid of both ends of the life cycle as unproductive leeches on his vision of socialized America. He just isn't telling you about that just like he isn't telling you how bad the economic report really is although he is now saying his report can be delayed because Clinton and Bush didn't release theirs until August or September so what if he promised you the most transparent of Administrations he just throws off any criticism back on his predecessors claiming they did the same thing and so what if this is a run on sentence because Obama will just keep talking and talking and talking until you just accept what he says cause he has worn you down to a total frazzle and you just wave the white flag and say the America I knew and loved is GONE so I surrender and if you just deny my medical treatment I will be outta your hair and my misery. Amen.
Slow down or fight harder? How about stop and tackle the real problems with health care. Obama, being a disciple of Alinsky, will stir the pot even more. Confusion and turmoil are necessary to take the system down and rebuild it into his Marxist Utopia.
Before compromising our healthcare with this depleted pot of leveraged debts, put America and its people back on the path to economic and full production independence with the TARP money.
Revisit this mess 2yrs from now after more careful planning, added tax revenues, and the $140b from the repeal of the Bush taxcuts.
Before compromising our healthcare with this depleted pot of leveraged debts and all the withheld bank bailout money that won't see the light of day in this bill, put America and its people back on the path to economic and full production independence with the TARP money.
Revisit this mess 2yrs from now after more careful planning, added tax revenues, and the $140b from the repeal of the Bush taxcuts.
It is absolutely mind boggling how people continue to confuse higher tax rates with higher tax revenues. Numerous pundits continue to argue that we need to raise tax rates to fund the growing budget deficit. But raising tax rates is one sure way of making sure the budget deficit grows even larger.
There are only two ways to shrink a deficit: 1) Spend less money. 2) Generate more revenue. Spending less money is a great idea, but given all the promises the government has made to various constituents, this is not likely to happen in the near future. Therefore, we must raise more revenue, but that will not happen by raising tax rates.
Higher tax rates are a recipe for reduced employment and slower economic growth (or a more severe recession). Time and time again, we have seen how tax rate cuts have spurred employment, economic growth, and tax revenues. Budget deficits during such lower tax rate/higher tax revenue eras are the result of uncontrolled spending, not the result of less revenue.
Politicians should be clear and honest. Tell us we need more tax revenue, not higher tax rates. Then lower tax rates to make sure we get the revenue we need.
Big Bob: Thne theory you pose is all well and good except for one thing. Most people have already scaled back and have stopped spending. the only ones who continue to spend and lavish themselves with our money is the banks.
1. They have unilaterally sucked up any and sometimes all of the "already earned equitys" that we the "working class" people had accrued.
2. Previously they bilked anyone and everyone they could scam into refinancing so as to enable themselves the privilege of expanded "leveraging" that took them from the 1:10- 1:14 model to their ponzi scheming speculation model that fell flat on its face.
THEY ALONE TAUTED "THEIR" BUSINESS MODEL.
THEY ALONE LOST AND SPENT IT.
In real time dollars and cents they alone have put themselves in the position to owe their own creditors and be in the intracable position of not being able to collect from their own deadbeats that they were supposed to scrutinize the massive amount that totals $47trillion dollars.
Fannie and freddies failures are a mere drop in the ocean when compared to that of the financials who lost money from 401ks, pensions, etc. that wasn't theirs to speculate at those levels which caused the massive collapses worldwide.
the banks themselves got exactly what they asked for when they stufffed mailboxes to capacity telling everying including illegal aliens that they could have unlimited interest free credit. TELL A LIE OFTEN ENOUGH MOST PEOPLE WILL EVENTUALLY BELIEVE IT.
That goes for the banks and financials as well. They believed they couldn't lose as long as they kept rigging the ratios, and then pulling the strings out from under the slow witted and embarassed marks.
Homes that once had years of equity were lost to a few months of late payments, and jacked interest rates that in some cases doubled the mortgage rate.
TRUTH IN ADVERTISING SHOULD HAVE BEEN BACKED AND CONTROLLED BY THE LAWS THAT GOVERN TRUTH IN LENDING. BUT WE KNOW THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, ... CONSEQUENTLY THE BANKS FROZE UP AND STOPPED LENDING ALTOGETHER BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T.
THEY COULDN'T LEND AND THEY COULDN'T BORROW BECAUSE NONE OF THEM TRUSTED THE OTHERS COOKED BOOKS AND BAD DEBT HOLDINGS.
...THEN CAME THE UNKINDEST CUTS OF ALL. THE BANKS TOLD EVEN THEIR BEST CUSTOMERS THEY WERE ON THEIR OWN. ON THEIR OWN TO MEET LOAN DEADLINES, WITHOUT THE COLLATERAL THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD TO MEET PAYROLL, PAY CREDITORS, OR EVEN EXIST.
... then came the job losses 15 million of them.
But, ... Never fear. The spending continues and the schemes that broke the system persist. AIG execs go on junkets for their clever ruse "handoff exchange" of $20b in TARP money to Goldman-Sachs. ...and Goldman employees split the money in bonues that would put 100,000 people back to work.
So there goes your theory as told in real world dynamics.
The banks ain't lending, ...so the rest of us ain't spending.
there's no truth to the lie mass medias trending,
In spite of all their condescending,
The nation is not mending.
Those in the angry pot are about to boil,
The millions say "We want living wages for our toils" ... not czars or ponzi schemers whose notions so rotted, their hearts corrupted, ... and spoiled.
That they plot so maniacally until the day... they are finally hamstrung strip searched and foiled.
END ALL THE SOUND-BYTING DOUBLE SPEAK FOR A MINUTE AND LOOK ALL AROUND YOU. WHAT DO YOU SEE IN WESTCHESTER, LONG ISLAND...
Nobody's spending. Now reopen your mind after all you see and tell the truth that's plain to see.