The super rich do not pay their fare share of taxes. With a good accountant and the internal revenue laws favor the rich they pay abut 10%. Warrren Buffett sated his secretary pays more in a percentage of taxes than he pays. The revenue loss would be about $700 billion and it would be better to provide financial relief to small business rathter than give it to the rich. Small business propably would start hiring, Just giving more money to the rich is one of the poorest ways to improve the economy. When clinton was president no tax cuts were given to the rich and there was a gain of 22million jobs

"Borrowing to finance tax cuts for the top 2% would be a $700 billion fiscal mistake," Geithner said before the Center for American Progress."

BORROWING to FINANCE tax cuts for ANYONE would be a huge financial mistake-fred

In all acuality there should be no or little reason to borrow in the first place. One only borrows for EXPANSION...Not to pay the EVERYDAY Bills.

In a republic everybody should pay their fair share, no matter how small or how large.

Its a shame that we have become a non self supporting nation.

I was on the air, I didn't mean that the rich have bad intent. They are making the momey but are scared to spend it and that is why n no job are created. If you help the middle class, maybe they will start small busineeses and more people will be working instead of becoming homeless. In my town two people with good eduation took their lives because they lost their job and where on the road to becoming homeless. Thank GOD for Obama he care about the people and not for how deep his pockets are!

No way. No how. See within the last topic board, "CT Shooting Rampage: Too Many Guns Or Not Enough" and see exactly how they do it, and get away with hijacking our government, our assets and are destroying our American way of life and all our our traditional family and cultural values.
Read and see if you disagree. I guarantee that even if you don't fully agree, that you will more informed than you ever were before and "that knowledge" will help to save the country and the people we love America.

First of all the ceiling 0f $200,000 is far too low for an individuals own, and small business owners salary earnings to be taxed. A ceiling that low insures that their will be no upward mobility while the super rich pay pennies on the tens to hundreds of millions they give themselves annually.
This ceiling teamed with the new taxations that will be issued on goodsand services, fines and surcharges will guarantee that every one at or below the million dollar mark will be rapidly diminished by the number of millions who willnever be allowed back in the workforce again and who remain on the public dole. Just do the math government and civil service related workers now comprise well over the 43% that was tallied in 2005. The private sector is getting smaller and smaller and the BIG BANKS wont lent to anyone outside of their circles. So don't expect small business to flourish when the mega giants paying subsistance wages are so diversified and buy in such volume that the little stores can't compete.

First of all the ceiling 0f $200,000 is far too low for an individuals own, and small business owners salary earnings to be taxed. A ceiling that low insures that their will be no upward mobility while the super rich pay pennies on the tens to hundreds of millions they give themselves annually.
This ceiling teamed with the new taxations that will be issued on goods and services, fines and surcharges will guarantee that every one at or below the million dollar in salaried "earnings" mark will be "siphoned off" and rapidly diminished in large chunks by the number of millions who will never again be allowed back in the workforce at living wages" and will permanently remain on the public dole for healthcare services that may go well beyond what many could ever earn in income. Just get out the slide ruler and do the math.
Government and civil service related employees and their management staff, political appointees, and workfare individuals- now comprise well over the 43% that was tallied in 2005. That number I am sure is now closer to 45-46%.
The private sector is getting smaller and smaller and the BIG BANKS and the shadow bank manipulators behind the scenes won't and haven't been lending to anyone outside of their circles for the past few years. So don't expect small businesses to flourish when the mega giants paying subsistance wages are again subsidized with your tax money to create subsistance jobs for you and your children, with no actual investment of their own, in your communitys.
Thats just one of the scams and hoaxes perpetrated on the public. They pay no taxes on the property they lease or worse yet grab ownership of, they begin by getting subsidized for building, paid for by the higher taxes collected from the community that allows them to build and they squeeze out as many of the little guys in their wake. the bonus is that they will not pay taxes, ever. Why? The auspis that they are creating "new jobs" when in actuality they have bankrupted many long time businesses. They are so diversified, and buy in such volume, and are so well politically connected that the little stores and private individuals can't compete. Where do they go? What becomes of these people? Ask you "new" clerk at Walmart you might be looking at him.

Those who buy stock in the MEGAs are seeing the short term profit, on their investment only to lose it back and then soon when *the manipulators[SEE WHO THEY ARE ON THE PREVIOUS BOARD AS DIRECTED] hint G-S is one of them, time the market, causing dips so large, it might take years to make up the difference. you've all seen it before. So... whatcha gonna do?
are you going to keep going down the same road? feeding the Fed, who takes your tax money and gives it all away not only to subsidize the Super Rich but now uses its powers to insure that they pay NO TAXES FOREVERMORE. Hmmmmmmmmm!

THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE- ASK FOR A REFERENDUM THAT RAISES THE TAX CEILING TO 1MILLION. Don't worry the taxes collected from the top .01% who now own 48% of the nations total GDP. will sure be enough to knock off some of the debt and pay for the cost of that mickey mouse healthcare plan- that we were supposed to eat.

I DON'T CARE WHAT HE DID WITH HIS PERSONAL TIME HE DID A GREAT JOB FOR THE PUBLIC ON THE JOB-

"BRING BACK- ELIOT SPITZER

HE KNOWS HOW TO CLEAN UP THE CESSPOOLS OF CORRUPTION.
One thing is certain these days in government, if you are really corrupt you get to keep your job.
SEE: CHENEY, SANFORD, COBURN, CHALABI, GEITHNER,...

Why not do away with the income tax system we have now and replace it with a flat tax?

Doug: that's fine with me. But while we are at it, why not petition Cong/Senate to end the Fed altogther and have all of oour money matters handled by the U.S. Treasurys so the private bankers can no longer dole out our money to everyone that they do like the IMF and World Bank, the Chineses etc. and charging us compounded interest for all of their generosities and indignitys as if the money were theirs?

Good with me,John!

I find this article very troubling:
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/07/you-call-this-a-recovery.html

No wonder me,a middle class citizen,is going downhill

"Why not do away with the income tax system we have now and replace it with a flat tax?"

Why would you even think of doing that? If the same rate applies to everyone, it would have to be practically zero, or the poorer would not be able to pay. Then the super-rich would be paying that same almost non-existant rate, leaving us with so little revenue we wouldn't be able to spread gravel on Pennsylvania Avenue. The only way we can have enough revenue to make it worth bothering with is by applying progressive rates.

Speaking of gravel roads, several states are removing the failing blacktop from their roads and just spreading gravel. Cities are shutting off their streetlights, taking them down to sell for scrap. This is in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Some land of opportunity.

Of course the right will say this is because of "entitlements". But FICA taxes completely support Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. They're not at all part of general budgets, so they can't contribute to shortfalls.

When Obama wanted the rich to pay 3% more to help the economy and the others, everyone called him a socialist because he would be taking from the "so fragile" rich a little bit more, may be they would have to cut their plane numbers from 4 to 3, may be the women would not go to the rich spa for one summer, or may be they cannot afford a $3 million dollar party for their workers, eh, a feel bad for them!

MikeQ: Why not do away with the income tax system we have now and replace it with a flat tax?"
Why would you even think of doing that? If the same rate applies to everyone, it would have to be practically zero, or the poorer would not be able to pay. Then the super-rich would be paying that same almost non-existant rate, leaving us with so little revenue we wouldn't be able to spread gravel on Pennsylvania Avenue. The only way we can have enough revenue to make it worth bothering with is by applying progressive rates.

BECAUSE THEN YOU COULD GO TO A LARGER CORPORATE TAX ON ALL CORPORATIONS & THEIR CEO STRUCTURE THAT OUTSOURCE, OPERATE OVERSEAS OR EMPLOY "ILLEGAL MIGRANTS". THEY- NOT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WOULD PAY A SCALED INCREASE COST FOR ALL INTERVENTIONS OF DOD/MILITARY AND INTELL UTILIZED FOR THEIR PROTECTION. IF BASES ARE NEEDED TO BE MAINTAINED: SO BE IT
*We the people own the military. We man it, we fund it. IT IS OURS! plain and simple.
Any and all profits protecting other nations come directly back to us. Case Closed- Period!
We are not the worlds police. Nor are we going to pay whole hog for their protection without getting full compensation.

YIKES!!! I think I just put enough fear out there to put an end to wars and gun running for a long long time.

What would "ideological extremists" do then? Where would they hide, when all their killing of innocents in the nations they have taken residence, start taking the killings personally?
Surely, they would begin to handle it themselves or gather enough money to call us in.
They would also pinpoint the target so as not to incur to great a cost to the bill.
How is that concept for having "undetectable" eyes, ears and feet on the ground and nobody having to fear the loss of their soverignty or their culture.
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Regarding infrastructure, and services. Let each state control its own central taxation system dispensed "equally". then the affluent would have enough skin in the game to insure that its residents be educated and productive enough to compete with its neighboring competitors for industry which will benefit across the board for highly skilled domestic forces that keep "their" taxes lower.
Small businesses- "grow", the "too bigs" not so much.

MikeQ: HERE'S THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT SAVINGS- No more compounded interest payments to foreign or bilderberg bankers either. In the final analysis, that's where all the debt is going and incurred isn't it.
FINANCING- WARS, DOUBLED US OIL CONSUMPTION, THE IMF, OFFSHORE TAXHAVENS, BACKING THE EURO, *SWISS BANKS(PART AND PARCEL OF THE SCAM),
*SWISS BANKS WOULDN'T HAVE THE GUARANTEED IMMUNITYS AND PROTECTIONS FROM INSPECTION THEY HAVE IF OUR TOO BIG TO FAILS WEREN'T GUARANTEEING THEIR OWN IMMUNITYS BY HAVING THIS OUT OF COUNTRY FORT KNOX THAT AS WE ALL KNOW DOESN'T DIVULGE A THING TO ITS PUBLIC OR ANYONE ELSE OUTSIDE OF IT'S RING.
Let the others bitch and moan about the little "trivia" mickey mouse stuff that MSM feeds them. No Charlie Rangel pittances or trips to Spain here. WE ARE TALKING BIG TIME TENS OF TRILLIONS THAT ARE BEING FLOATED AWAY BY BILDERBERG(worldwide) FUNDING(with zero backing other than the *Feds[private owned] shylocking ability to pay other bankers[also under the protections provided by our military] by garnishing huge slabs of our *WAGE EARNINGS via INCOME TAX[UNCONSTITUTIONAL- never confirmed or signed into law], THEN PLACED ON THE TAXPAYER TAB for its cut, redistribution and "balloon" repayments.
DOES ANYONE NOW SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE MORE CLEARLY THAN BEFORE?
If you want to eliminate or lower the debt, and who is responcible for it- you must reign in THE FED[and it's money laundering cartel of globalist private bankers who are and have been marauding as a government entity for a century.


SSI- pays for itself and should be accruing interest.

healthcare- will either find a balance with job growth and better healthcare maintainance over time or hospitals andinsurance co's will have to learn how to trim down "their" structures and fees to competitive or commensurate balances.

Illegals- "will go home" in abundance. Freeing up millions of jobs that may never be created if left up the mutts we have in government. That's a double bonus!
... AND MORE!
WHO SAYS IT CAN'T WORK?
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CORRECTION:(previous post) What would "ideological extremists" who are benefiting so greatly from "our presence" and "pay offs" do then? What would be the impetus for their recruitment? Where would they hide, when all their killing of innocents, is in the nations they have taken residence, "and the surviving people" they have harmed start taking the killings personally?

Let the others bitch and moan about the little "trivia" mickey mouse stuff that MSM feeds them. No Charlie Rangel pittances or trips to Spain here. WE ARE TALKING BIG TIME TENS OF TRILLIONS THAT ARE BEING FLOATED AWAY BY BILDERBERG(worldwide) FUNDING(with zero backing other than the *Feds[private owned] shylocking ability to pay other bankers[also under the protections provided by our military] by garnishing huge slabs of our *WAGE EARNINGS via INCOME TAX[UNCONSTITUTIONAL- never confirmed or signed into law], THEN PLACED ON THE TAXPAYER TAB for its cut, redistribution and "balloon" repayments.

*BY COMPARISON EVEN THE MORTGAGE SCAMS... of the financials and bankers that include your Bilderbergers but tried to shift the blame to Fannie & Freddie for aconvenient scapegoat for their collusions PALE TO THE MONUMENTAL UNFUNDED AND DELIBERATE "INSIDER TRADING" OF THE BILDERBERG GLOBALISTS WHO ARE FRACTURING OUR SOCIETY "WITH" "BY" AND "FOR" THEIR OWN PURPOSES- WITH YOUR MONEY and with your silence about the unwritten mandate that leaves "global equities" as totally immune and outside of the realm of the boundaries of US banking regulation reform, you the people who complain about debt are complicit in your own and this countrys demise to foreever be indebted to their debts.
Further silence from this point onward equals your tacit approval.
"Render unto the Bilderberg Empire what is yours- until it is yours no more."

Let the others bitch and moan about the little "trivia" mickey mouse stuff that MSM feeds them. No Charlie Rangel pittances or trips to Spain here. WE ARE TALKING BIG TIME TENS OF TRILLIONS THAT ARE BEING FLOATED AWAY BY BILDERBERG(worldwide) FUNDING(with zero backing other than the *Feds[private owned] shylocking ability to pay other bankers[also under the protections provided by our military] by garnishing huge slabs of our *WAGE EARNINGS via INCOME TAX[UNCONSTITUTIONAL- never confirmed or signed into law], THEN PLACED ON THE TAXPAYER TAB for its cut, redistribution and "balloon" repayments.

*BY COMPARISON EVEN THE MORTGAGE SCAMS... of the financials and bankers that include your Bilderbergers but tried to shift the blame to Fannie & Freddie for aconvenient scapegoat for their collusions PALE TO THE MONUMENTAL UNFUNDED AND DELIBERATE "INSIDER TRADING" OF THE BILDERBERG GLOBALISTS WHO ARE FRACTURING OUR SOCIETY "WITH" "BY" AND "FOR" THEIR OWN PURPOSES- WITH YOUR MONEY and with your silence about the unwritten mandate that leaves "global equities" as totally immune and outside of the realm of the boundaries of US banking regulation reform, you the people who complain about debt are complicit in your own and this countrys demise to foreever be indebted to their debts.
Further silence from this point onward REGARDING THE RAISING OF YOUR TAXES & OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT SPENDING PRACTICES CAUSED BY THE KEY INSTUMENTS THE BILDERBERG HIERARCHY HAS PLACED IN YOUR GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL THE OUTCOMES equals your tacit approval.
Founded in 1954, the Bilderberg Group holds "by invitation only" annual meetings of the rich and powerful. About two-thirds of the attendees are European, the rest American. Informally named for the site of the group's first meeting, the Hotel de Bilderberg in Oosterbeek, Netherlands.

Founding Date:
1954

Name Occupation Birth Death Known for
Josef Ackermann Business 7-Feb-1948 CEO of Deutsche Bank
Umberto Agnelli Business 1-Nov-1934 27-May-2004 Chairman of Fiat, 2003-04
Fouad Ajami Author 9-Sep-1945 Director of Middle East Studies, SAIS
Keith B. Alexander Military 1952 Director, National Security Agency
Paul Allaire Business 21-Jul-1938 Twice CEO of Xerox
Graham T. Allison Scholar 23-Mar-1940 Kennedy School of Government
Joaquin Almunia Politician 17-Jun-1948 EU Economic Affairs Commissioner
Roger C. Altman Business c. 1945 CEO of Evercore Partners
Ed Balls Politician 25-Feb-1967 British MP, Normanton
Robert L. Bartley Editor 12-Oct-1937 10-Dec-2003 Editor of the Wall Street Journal, 1979-2003
*Evan Bayh Politician 26-Dec-1955 US Senator from Indiana ANTI-PUBLIC OPTION, AGAINST BANKING & INSURANCE REGULATION,
Queen Beatrix I Royalty 31-Jan-1938 Queen of the Netherlands
*Ben Bernanke Economist 13-Dec-1953 Federal Reserve Chairman "THE DEBT" THE ZERO JOBS RECOVERY FORMULA
Prince Bernhard Royalty 29-Jun-1911 1-Dec-2004 Prince of the Netherlands
Carl Bildt Head of State 15-Jul-1949 Foreign Minister of Sweden
Conrad Black Business 25-Aug-1944 Rapacious newspaper mogul
Charles G. Boyd Military 15-Apr-1938 Retired General, US Air Force
John Browne Business 20-Feb-1948 CEO of British Petroleum, 1995-2007
John H. Bryan Business 5-Oct-1936 CEO of Sara Lee, 1975-2000
William F. Buckley Columnist 24-Nov-1925 27-Feb-2008 National Review
William Bundy Government 24-Sep-1917 6-Oct-2000 Cold War advisor to JFK, LBJ
Peter Carington Government 6-Jun-1919 UK Foreign Secretary, 1979-82
Henri de Castries Business c. 1954 CEO of AXA
*Ahmed Chalabi Government 30-Oct-1944 Prominent on the Iraqi Provisional Council CONVICTED CRIMINAL- BROUGHT HERE TO GIVE FALSE INFORMATION THAT BROUGHT US THE IRAQ WAR.
Raymond Chrétien Diplomat 20-May-1942 Canadian Ambassador to the US, 1995-2000
W. Edmund Clark Business c. 1947 CEO of Toronto Dominion Bank
Kenneth Clarke Politician 2-Jul-1940 Chancellor of the Exchequer, 1993-97
Bill Clinton Head of State 19-Aug-1946 42nd US President, 1993-2001 ROCKY NEEDS AT LEAST ONE PEOPLE PERSON TO VALIDATE THIS TIGHT KNIT INSIDERS COVEN.
Marshall A. Cohen Business c. 1935 CEO of Molson, 1988-96
Timothy C. Collins Business c. 1956 Private equity, Ripplewood Holdings
Bertrand P. Collomb Business c. 1943 CEO of Lafarge SA, 1987-2003
Jon Corzine Politician 1-Jan-1947 Governor of New Jersey
Chester A. Crocker Government 29-Oct-1941 Asst. Secy. State, African Affairs, 1981-89
Claes Dahlbäck Business c. 1948 CEO of Investor AB, 1978-99
Tom Daschle Politician 9-Dec-1947 US Senator from South Dakota, 1987-2005
Paul G. Desmarais, Jr. Business 3-Jul-1954 Co-CEO of Power Corporation of Canada
John Deutch Government 27-Jul-1938 CIA Director, 1995-96
Chris Dodd Politician 27-May-1944 US Senator from Connecticut
Thomas E. Donilon Attorney c. 1955 O'Melveny and Myers
Esther Dyson Business 14-Jul-1951 EDventure Holdings, former ICANN director
Murray Edwards Business c. 1959 Canadian Natural Resources
Martha J. Farah Psychologist c. 1955 Center for Cognitive Neuroscience, UPenn
*Dianne Feinstein Politician 22-Jun-1933 US Senator from California WAR PROFITEER IN FEMALE CLOTHING
Martin Feldstein Economist 25-Nov-1939 Reagan economist
Anthony S. Fell Business c. 1941 Chairman, RBC Capital Markets
*Harold Ford Politician 11-May-1970 Congressman from Tennessee, 1997-2007 STILLCAN'T FIND ASTATE TO ELECT HIM. WILL GET AN IMMEDIATE COMMITTEE POSITION IF EVER ELECTED
Stephen Friedman Business 21-Dec-1937 Former Partner, *****Goldman Sachs
Thomas Friedman Journalist 20-Jul-1953 New York Times
Melinda Gates Philanthropist 15-Aug-1964 Married to Bill Gates
*****Timothy F. Geithner Government 18-Aug-1961 US Secretary of the Treasury WANTS THE FED BE "THE OMNIPOTENT RULING BODY OVER ALL US MONEY" THIS MUG DID NOT PAY HIS OWN TAXES. DOESTHAT SAY ENOUGH?
David Gergen Columnist 9-May-1942 Advisor to Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Clinton
Paul Gigot Columnist 1955 Wall Street Journal columnist
Donald E. Graham Journalist 22-Apr-1945 Washington Post CEO
Katharine Graham Publisher 16-Jun-1917 17-Jul-2001 Washington Post publisher, 1966-79
Richard Haass Government 1951 President, ***Council on Foreign Relations FOREIGN POLICY
*Chuck Hagel Politician 4-Oct-1946 US Senator from Nebraska, 1997-2009
Richard C. Holbrooke Diplomat 24-Apr-1941 US Envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan FOREIGN POLICY
*Allan Hubbard Economist 8-Sep-1947 George W. Bush economist HIS ADVISE HAS TO BE WORTHLESS!
Kenneth Jacobs Business c. 1958 CEO of Lazard North America
Merit E. Janow Educator 13-May-1958 Professor of Int'l Affairs, Columbia University
Peter Jennings Journalist 29-Jul-1938 7-Aug-2005 Former anchor, ABC World News Tonight
James A. Johnson Business 24-Dec-1943 CEO of Fannie Mae, 1991-98
J. Bennett Johnston Politician 10-Jun-1932 US Senator from Louisiana, 1972-97
Vernon Jordan Business 15-Aug-1935 Advisor to Bill Clinton
Muhtar Kent Business c. 1952 CEO of Coca-Cola
*Henry Kissinger Government 27-May-1923 US Secretary of State, 1973-77 FOREIGN POLICY
Klaus Kleinfeld Business 6-Nov-1957 President and COO of Alcoa
Andrew S. B. Knight Journalist 1-Nov-1939 Editor of The Economist, 1974-86
Henry Kravis Business 6-Jan-1944 Kohlberg Kravis Roberts
Marie-Josée Kravis Economist 11-Sep-1949 President of MoMA
*Bill Kristol Columnist 23-Dec-1952 Editor of The Weekly Standard MINISTER OF PROPAGANDA. DEFECTED FROM PNAC FOR OBVIOUS REASONS
Neelie Kroes Government 19-Jul-1941 EU Commissioner of Competition
Jan Leschly Business ? CEO of SmithKline Beecham, 1994-2000
William J. Luti Military c. 1952 NSC Defense Policy Adviser
Peter Mandelson Politician 21-Oct-1953 EU Commissioner for Trade
Jessica Tuchman Mathews Government 1946 Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Charles Mathias Politician 24-Jul-1922 25-Jan-2010 US Senator from Maryland, 1969-87
Charlie McCreevy Politician 30-Sep-1948 EU Commissioner, Internal Market and Services
William J. McDonough Business c. 1934 President of ***New York Fed, 1993-2003 ALAWAYSCONTROLL BY BILDERBERG
Frank J. McKenna Politician 19-Jan-1948 Canadian Ambassador to the US, 2005-06
Tom McKillop Business 19-Mar-1943 Chairman, Royal Bank of Scotland
*George J. Mitchell Politician 20-Aug-1933 US Middle East Envoy STILL THE UNREST OVER PALASTINE CONTINUES...
Bill Moyers Journalist 6-Jun-1934 NOW with Bill Moyers
Craig Mundie Business c. 1949 CTO of Microsoft
*George Pataki Politician 24-Jun-1945 Governor of New York, 1995-2006 WATCH OUT FOR THIS
*Henry M. Paulson Business 28-Mar-1946 US Secretary of the Treasury, 2006-09 YOU KNOW THE DAMAGE THIS GOLDMAN SACHS INSIDER CAUSED AND ALLOWED
Frank H. Pearl Business c. 1943 CEO of Perseus LLC
*Richard Perle Government 16-Sep-1941 Prince of Darkness SHADOW FIGURE CONSULTING AND DIRECTING SEVERAL DECADES OF PRESIDENTS
Fredrik Reinfeldt Head of State 4-Aug-1965 Prime Minister of Sweden
*Bill Richardson Politician 15-Nov-1947 Governor of New Mexico KEY MONKEY WRENCH IN THE *ILLEGAL, CHEAP LABOR THAT IS UNDERMINING FAMILYS
Rozanne L. Ridgway Diplomat 22-Aug-1935 Asst. Secy. of State for Europe, 1985-89 FOREIGN AFFAIRS
Don Riegle Politician 4-Feb-1938 US Senator from Michigan, 1976-95
****David Rockefeller Business 12-Jun-1915 Founder of the Trilateral Commission THE "FIXER" WEARS TWO HATS HE IS THE EXXON-MOGUL. DOES ANYBODY DARE TO SAY "PRICE FIXING" OR "MARTIAL LAW"
Charlie Rose Talk Show Host 5-Jan-1942 Charlie Rose Show
Dennis B. Ross Diplomat c. 1949 US Middle East Envoy, 1992-2000
Lynn Forester de Rothschild Business 2-Jul-1954 Telecom executive
Barnett R. Rubin Educator c. 1950 The Fragmentation of Afghanistan
Mark Sanford Politician 28-May-1960 Governor of South Carolina
Jaap de Hoop Scheffer Politician 3-Apr-1948 NATO Secretary General, 2004-09
Eric Schmidt Business 27-Apr-1955 CEO of Google
Kathleen Sebelius Politician 15-May-1948 US Secretary of HHS
John Shad Government 27-Jun-1923 Jul-1994 SEC Chairman, 1981-87
Robert B. Shapiro Business 4-Aug-1938 CEO of Monsanto, 1995-2000
George Shultz Government 13-Dec-1920 US Secretary of State, 1982-89
George Soros Business 12-Aug-1930 Hungarian financial speculator
Lesley Stahl Journalist 16-Dec-1941 60 Minutes
James B. Steinberg Government 7-May-1953 Deputy Secretary of State
Dennis Stevenson Business 19-Jul-1945 Chairman of HBOS
Lawrence H. Summers Economist 30-Nov-1954 US Treasury Secretary, 1999-2001
Peter Sutherland Government 25-Apr-1946 First Director General of the WTO
Peter Thiel Business 1967 Co-Founder of PayPal
Jean-Claude Trichet Business 20-Dec-1942 President, European Central Bank
Sanam Vakil Educator ? Mideast Scholar, SAIS
John Vinocur Journalist ? International Herald Tribune correspondent
Vin Weber Politician 24-Jul-1952 Congressman from Minnesota, 1981-93
John C. Whitehead Business 1922 US Deputy Secretary of State, 1985-89
Michael H. Wilson Politician 4-Nov-1937 Canadian Ambassador to the US
James Wolfensohn Business 1-Dec-1933 World Bank president, 1995-2005
Paul Wolfowitz Government 22-Dec-1943 President of the World Bank, 2005-07

NOW COUNT UP THOSE WHO ARE CONTROLLING THE MSM NEWS AND THE WAY NEWS IS PRESENTED TO YOU.

"Render unto the Bilderberg Empire what is yours- and allow them to do your thinking for you- until it is yours no more."

Question: Who noticed... Chris Dodd amd John Deutch? Who remembers how whistleblower Micheal C Ruppert roped up this stooge and layed out the diagram of deceptions for all to see. From CIA to Wall St to the military to the SEC and back to the banking mavens who are supposed to guarantee and validate the warranted publics trust in their approvals of loan guarantees that can place our dollar currency at risk.

Watch this! John Deutch is at the beginning. Every thing else that follows is a mind blowing eye opener.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReNjdUmpmJY&feature=related

Video II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ1xkYfjfsU

Caspian: I am at a loss for time can you provide the original full Ruppert 2hr video for MikeG, Doug, robert and the rest for me?

Found it. It's only 1 HR AND 5 MINUTES.
Don't miss it, if you haven't seen it.
Try to find any untruth and present it. A REWARD OF $1000 WAS OFFERED BY THE PRESENTER!
This lecture was made at Portland univ in 2001. So much of what we now have seen progress has more than validated your concern.

Found it. It's only 1 HR AND 5 MINUTES.
Don't miss it, if you haven't seen it.
Try to find any untruth and present it. A REWARD OF $1000 WAS OFFERED BY THE PRESENTER!
This lecture was made at Portland Univ in 2001. So much of what we now have seen progress has more than validated your concern.
Doug you will love this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145#

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Roman Abramovitch... not the best person to go into business against, it seems. So says his former sparring buddy Boris Berezovsky, and it looks like he would know from his bacckground. It all got very murky in Russia when the Soviet Union broke up, and the right people made billions while the wrong people died. Look for that soon in a country near you, folks. Be ready, and pray you're still alive to disagree years later.

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