They will Thank them because we are tired of paying higher taxes due to the governments reckless spending.

Jerry
Denville, New Jersey

I can't recall the progressive liberals and media ever being so frantic in my lifetime. Every story, every poll: "Are the conservatives doing this?" - "Are the conservatives doing that?" - "What are the conservatives thinking?" The mental anguish that you liberals are experiencing must be excruciating, and it was all self-inflicted - and that has to make it sting even worse!

Expending all this energy, at this juncture is an exercise in futility. You seem worried and frightened and frail 'now',...but all you really needed to do 'back then', was listen to us,..instead of dismissing us as 'stupid', 'racist', redneck et al.

That whole 'smarter than the room' attitude of the liberals is repugnant.
You ignored the will of the people - ALL of the people,..not just the Republicans. Your arrogance was revealing and now it's just revolting.

Your hubris sealed your fate.

Along with self-evidently false tales from the right about, say, the non-existant anti-incumbent landslide (well over 90% of incumbents beat out their challengers),-we're also told that liberals are scared spitless of a backlash from "all of the people." These are stories that just keep getting repeated until even leftie pundits repeat them, despite the numbers that say these stories don't match the cold, hard numbers.

There is not a whole lot more ignoring of the "will of the people" by Washington today than before. And what IS the will of the people, when the stories that become accepted as fact merely because they were repeated often enough are clearly false?

BTW: When someone says "you liberals" instead of just "liberals", that is a well-recognized sign of contemptuous dismissal originating from arrogance.

Mike Q: You liberals don't seem like a happy bunch at all. Your brethren in the media steer the news, set the tone,..you guys have it ALL your way,..and still you're cranky,..why is that?

The only lies being told have to do with BO's approval rating which is quite a bit lower than is presently being reported. How about the way they massage the unemployment numbers? All these great fantasies to satiate you liberals and still you're not happy.
Perhaps a doctor could help.

The Tea party represents limited government, limited spending, more power to the people and basic conservative values. Only big spending liberal Republicans need to fear losing their seats. Those Republicans with conservative values will do just fine.

I am philosophically aligned with the tea party and must tell you that myself and many tea parties are not motivated by fear but by anger. And I was never angrier than when listening to you propagandizing by theoretically asking tea party members questions and then answering your own questions. Why don't you have some Tea Party leaders on your show and ask them directly? You will get no hem and hawing as you suggest, but real answers. As if Tea Party members don't know what expenditures they would cut. How about starting by invalidating the new and very wasteful health care bill.

I have to suggest that you and others who somehow believe that Islam is a loving and peaceful religion should read the Quran.
Parts of it are just the opposite

Feds Spent $800,000 of Economic Stimulus on African Genital-Washing Program
Monday, September 13, 2010
By Matt Cover

– The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), a division of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), spent $823,200 of economic stimulus funds in 2009 on a study by a UCLA research team to teach uncircumcised African men how to wash their genitals after having sex.
The genitalia-washing program is part of a larger $12-million UCLA study examining how to better encourage Africans to undergo voluntary HIV testing and counseling – however, only the penis-washing study received money from the 2009 economic stimulus law. The washing portion of the study is set to end in 2011.
“NIH Announces the Availability of Recovery Act Funds for Competitive Revision Applications,” the grant abstract states. “We propose to evaluate the feasibility of a post-coital genital hygiene study among men unwilling to be circumcised in Orange Farm, South Africa.”
Because AIDS researchers have been unsuccessful in convincing most adult African men to undergo circumcision, the UCLA study proposes to determine whether researchers can develop an after-sex genitalia-washing regimen that they can then convince uncircumcised African men to follow.
“The aim of the proposed feasibility study is to evaluate the feasibility and acceptability of a post-coital male genital hygiene procedure, which participants will be asked to practice immediately post-coitus or at least 12 hours after,” reads the abstract.
Entitled “Community-Based HIV VCT: South Africa,” the name of the broader umbrella project, the program plans to test how well received the penis-washing regimen is among South African men.
If most of the men in the study wash their genitals after sex, are willing to do so after the study ends, and report that their partners accept the regimen, the researchers will develop another study to see if the “penile cleansing procedure” actually works to prevent HIV infections.
“If we find that men are able to practice consistent washing practices after sex, we will plan to test whether this might protect men from becoming HIV infected in a later study,” the grant says.
The study’s lead investigator Dr. Thomas J. Coates was the fourth highest-funded researcher in the country in 2002 and is currently conducting HIV research on three continents.
CNSNews.com asked both Coates and NIMH the following question: “The Census Bureau says the median household income in the United States is $52,000. How would you explain to the average American mom and dad -- who make $52,000 per year -- that taxing them to pay for this grant was justified?”
Coates, who was unavailable for comment, directed CNSNews.com to ask grant-related questions of his assistant, Darya Freedman, who did not respond.

"Your brethren in the media steer the news, set the tone."

MSNBC nighttime,sure, maybe CBS. But the rest? CNN? Fox News? Talk about setting a nasty tone for way too much of the discourse in America!

"and still you're cranky."

Isn't it the claim of every Tea Party apologist that the "movement" reflects the anger of conservatives (and some putative independents who are conservative in both walk and talk)? Who is it again who's cranky? Let's try to get the story straight.

"Do you know that the Koran contradicts itself often?"

"(Those)who somehow believe that Islam is a loving and peaceful religion should read the Quran. Parts of it are just the opposite."

Thank God the Bible never contradicts itself, or we might have unchristian Christians in our midst.

"Will Republicans Thank Or Regret The Tea Party In November?"


The Tea Party is completely a product of the likes of Obama and the Progressive and Democratic Left. Somebody has to wipe them out for the good and preservation of America. Our forefathers demand it!

Its the American people who will benefit from the primaries!

We have a OUT OF CONTROL - POWER HUNGRY govt that governs against the constitution and against the will of the America people and the payback is coming!

I think you will see a big tidal wave in november, i am sigingin people up and driving them to the voting booth, it cannot come fast enough

Ninety-nine percent of the time I scroll past Bill’s op ed pieces. I just noticed his op ed response to my comment about the so-called “southern strategy” (Sept 8). Let’s just take a glimpse at it.

“Not surprisingly, white Southern leaders such as Strom Thurmond grew bitterly frustrated with Nixon. This explains what Gallup polls detected in 1971-72: A large number of white Southern voters preferred Wallace to Nixon.” That is to say, white southerners expected Nixon to deliver on his implied campaign promises to do something about those out-of-control blacks, and he disappointed them. This is another way of saying that the white southern electorate was largely racist. Presenting an insufficiently brutish Nixon as proof that there was no “southern strategy” is a bait-and-switch argument; the electorate that has been voting Republican these past decades consists of those for whom either conscious or unintended racial preference at least partly informed their vote. What various presidents may or may not have done to please or disappoint voters is another matter. Presidential candidates can play to white resentments and then fail to deliver on their implied promises, and no proof can be claimed that this failure to deliver means no promises were intentionally implied. And the RNC’s chief recently commented on the Republican Party’s use of this “southern strategy”, not denying it exists or existed, but apologizing for the Party’s use of it. Meanwhile, Mr Op Ed cites Haley Barbour, dean of the school of historical revisionism, as a trustworthy authority.

To continue: “Welfare reform is deliberately anti-black (or anti-minority or anti-poor) only if conservatives secretly believe that welfare actually does help its beneficiaries…” (and sentences following): This is (I hate the word) disingenuous. It is not the intent of an action that determines its effects. However, it is the effects that can be quantitatively described as harmful to a group. A single action that negatively affects blacks does not make an argument for racism, but if the totality of a policy platform harms blacks while enhancing whites, the effect is racist even if there was no intent to harm any group out of hatred. That’s why Mr Op Ed’s proof of no racial bias,-public support for education,-is no such thing; white children would be affected by cutting education; no racial animosity need be present to produce antipathy toward some public entities and support for others. White children would tend to be less affected than minorities by diminishing public support entities. A conservative’s attempt to lower taxes by cutting public support entities may sincerely be intended to be an economic matter with no thought of race or class or anything else, but the effects of this tax reduction impact the less-privileged in a negative way far more than it impacts the more-privileged in even a positive way. Consciously or not, deliberately or not, conservative policies enhance the privileged and undermine the less-blessed. When the left says that conservative policies are often racist it does not mean that conservatives have the destruction of minorities in mind when formulating these policies; it means that the results of the implementation of these policies tend to favor whites and disfavor minorities. Conservatives’ belief that their policies favor all people except the lazy reflects the perspective of the more-blessed. It is not surprising, and does not require conscious animus, as conservatives keep insisting. They may not feel hostility, but their policies have effects that discriminate. Mr Op Ed is smart enough to understand this.

“When the left says that conservative policies are often racist it does not mean that conservatives have the destruction of minorities in mind when formulating these policies; it means that the results of the implementation of these policies tend to favor whites and disfavor minorities.” -Mike Q

So in other words, if conservatives try to cut taxes and spend more responsibly but the results happen to disfavor some minorities, then they are still called racist by the left. However, if some liberals purposely take money from the rich, who they think are mostly white according to your statement and redistribute to the poor, who by default would be non-white, mostly minorities and do so for reasons of race, then that is not called racist but considered some sort of “social justice.”

It is this kind of flawed, double standard, inconsistent logic by the left that people of all races, religions and cultures have turned away from. Just look at the Glenn Beck rally, peaceful Muslims prayed with peaceful Christians, MLK’s niece engaging to a crowd consisting of all nationalities, no talk of race and hatred. This is representative of the all inclusive America. All are welcome to join and participate, not just some.

"then they are still called racist by the left"

What I so laboriously tried to clarify was that loose use of language has people describing the effects of conservative policies in a manner that sounds like a judgmental accusation of racial hostility ("They're racist" rather than "Their policies have negative effects on minorities.").

"(If you)redistribute to the poor, who by default would be non-white,..that is not called racist but considered some sort of 'social justice.'”

It is "some sort of 'social justice'” if the necessary mechanisms of circular flow of money from the poor and middle class upward to the wealthy AND BACK AGAIN (via progressive taxation, employer-sponsored pensions and medical insurance and other such means) is interrupted and the wealth remains forever with the wealthy. It is "some sort of 'social justice'” if one human being has billions and another human being lives in a cardboard box because of rules of economics written by the wealthy with no input from the poor.

("They're racist" rather than "Their policies have negative effects on minorities.").-Mike Q

"It is "some sort of 'social justice'” if one human being has billions and another human being lives in a cardboard box because of rules of economics written by the wealthy with no input from the poor."- Mike Q

Mike, your first comment above is a step forward from much of the "far left" accusers who indiscriminately cry racist, so I applaud you for this. However, your second comment is more on target and less divisive because it recognizes that economic issues effect the "poor" who consist of all races and not just minorities.

By pointing out the basis of the issue instead of calling out race we stand a much better chance of addressing the problem. If just one time, someone like Sharpton would come to the aide of a White person, who may have been mistreated somehow, can you imagine the unity it would bring? Across the board support comes from shared values, rather then pitting one race against another.

A parade for our heroes:

September 15, 2010

President Obama's action to end Operation Iraqi Freedom and hand the reins of responsibility over to the people of Iraq is a historic moment for our nation and a milestone for our country's men and women in uniform.

Over the last 7½ years, 1.5 million Americans have fought heroically to defend America's 200-year-old commitment to liberty and security. We must prepare to give all of those who served and sacrificed in Iraq the proper thank-you they so valiantly deserve. Any effort to recognize the sacrifices and contributions of our service members is a good idea and should not be limited to Veteran's Day.

As most New Yorkers know, the grandest gesture our city has ever shown has been to honor and thank America's heroes and heroines with a parade through the Canyon of Heroes. Since 1886, when we officially welcomed Lady Liberty to the shores of our great nation, the Canyon of Heroes has been a place for Americans to celebrate their achievements and thank the people who made such accomplishments possible.

During the course of this grueling war, 4,418 men and women in uniform have given their lives in the name of freedom. Today, tens of thousands are healing from the physical and mental consequences that warfare brings.

And for millions of family members around the country, this war is not over. At this very moment, more than 50,000 sons and daughters are still actively serving to bring democracy and security to the people of Iraq.

Sens. Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand, as well as Long Island Rep. Peter King, have voiced support for a call to honor our Iraq War veterans with a ticker-tape parade.

As we keep our troops in our thoughts and prayers, we look to our country's veteran-advocacy leaders to guide us toward the most respectful and appropriate moment for a parade through the Canyon of Heroes. But we can say for now that this must remain a priority; we can't let this fall through the cracks or be placed on the back burner.

New York City knows how to come together to honor and thank fellow Americans who risk their lives to protect the lives of others. As we stand together over the coming months and welcome home our troops, we look forward to saying thank you.

"So in other words, if conservatives try to cut taxes and spend more responsibly but the results happen to disfavor some minorities, then they are still called racist by the left. However, if some liberals purposely take money from the rich, who they think are mostly white according to your statement and redistribute to the poor, who by default would be non-white, mostly minorities and do so for reasons of race, then that is not called racist but considered some sort of “social justice.”


MIKE G: Didn't the upper .01% take from everyone else for the past decade?
Answer: Yes___ No___

Didn't they accomplish the feat by changing the time honored rule of law and in so doing, didn't they almost obliterate the entire middle class and their assets? Yes___ No___

What do you hope is to be gained or profited by our nation as a whole from allowing these theives and scoundrels to keep "all" of their ill gotten gains?

Do you preclude to believe that you will ultimately become a beneficiary of a charitable donation due to ties to "their" ethnicity?

I don't get it. None of it.
THIS BOARD HAS DISPLAYED THE MOST PERVERSE INTERPRETATIONS OF CONVOLUTED IRRATIONAL CONJECTURE EVER SEEN.
IT'S SICK.
WHY WAIT FOR ANY ENEMY TO ATTACK. YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB OF PROVING THE ELITIST POINTS FOR A NWO ALL BY YOURSELVES.

The elitists have you all pegged down to a tee. ---> OFFER superior over inferior STATUS, ...race bait, ...play off incongruent behavior of small numbers within religions, ... scare the shit out of those who hold money as the primary measure of their entire human existance.

Think about it!

Q you are a stereotypical racist dumbass! Your arguments get you nowhere quick. Again!
In your twisted logic- rich=conservative=white.

One small problem with you and the jackasses that you hang out with at the logic mill.....or wherever you got your second rate education is this:

There are more poor white people, than the total amount, of all other poor nationalites combined.

Thats right MikeQ, you stupid fuck, when your so called 'conservatives' pass a law that affects poor people, the law affects more poor white, than poor others. Explain your argument now shit for brains.
What do you do, make this shit up?

Seems like everytime i have to deal with your smarmy ass...I end up correcting your bullshit arguments.

Here is a Q logic test.

If I said that I thought you were stupid. Would I also think you were:

A. African American
B. Not Conservative
C. Not Rich

john: pete peterson (nixon wh) is the american side archetect.

"There are more poor white people"

And yet the Republican Party felt that a strategy that got votes through white resentment was useful through several decades. How "stupid" those conservative Republicans must be then.

"What do you hope is to be gained or profited by our nation as a whole from allowing these theives and scoundrels to keep "all" of their ill gotten gains?" -John

John, you are missing my point! You and I may differ on "how" we defend liberty and "how" we should get ALL and ANY elite and non-elite CROOKS to pay back what they owe to the honest people of America, who don't deserve to be treated this way. ALL of the dishonest scoundrels should be brought to justice and pay back what they owe.

However, that was not the point here at all. My point is we are ALL getting screwed by those with power and money and those with an agenda. Whether it be the political establishment, many big corporate CEO's or anybody that steals or takes advantage of others through deception. It is not just minorities and when you say it is, without merit, you change the dialog from "right and wrong" to "white is wrong" and nothing gets done to address the issue because it creates division instead of unity.

That being said, there is a civil way to express this truth, without resorting to over the top offensive language, it does not matter whether it is directed at me or at someone I disagree with, in my opinion it also takes away from addressing the real issue. The point gets lost among the expletives.

BE AFRAID! BE VERY VERY AFRAID! (Lying Democrats - Just as Predicted)
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YAHOO NEWS
Expiring tax cuts hit taxpayers at every level:
Thu Sep 16, 7:09

WASHINGTON – Here's some pressure for lawmakers: If they don't reach agreement on extending soon-to-expire Bush-era tax cuts, nearly all their constituents back home will get big tax increases.

A typical family of four with a household income of $50,000 a year would have to pay $2,900 more in taxes in 2011, according to a new analysis by Deloitte Tax LLP, a tax consulting firm. The same family making $100,000 a year would see its taxes rise by $4,500.

Wealthier families face even bigger tax hikes. A family of four making $500,000 a year would pay $10,800 more in taxes. The same family making $1 million a year would get a tax increase of $52,300.

The estimates are based on total household income, including wages, capital gains and qualified dividends. The estimated tax bills take into account typical deductions at each income level.

Democrats have been arguing for much of the past decade that tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003 under former President George W. Bush provided a windfall for the wealthy. That's true, but they also reduced taxes for the working poor, the middle class, and just about everyone in between.

Those tax cuts expire at the end of the year, setting the stage for a high-stakes debate just before congressional elections in November. If Congress fails to act, families at every income level will see more taxes being withheld from their paychecks come January.

The tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003 reduced marginal income tax rates at every level. They also provided a wide range of income tax breaks for education, families with children and married couples.

Taxes on capital gains and dividends were reduced, while the federal estate tax was gradually repealed, though only for this year.

President Barack Obama wants to extend the tax cuts for individuals making less than $200,000 and joint filers making less than $250,000 in adjusted gross income. That's income from wages, capital gains and dividends, before standard deductions and exemptions are subtracted.

Republicans and a growing number of Democrats in Congress want to extend all the tax cuts, at least temporarily.

On Thursday, House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio said he wants an up-or-down vote on extending all the tax cuts before congressional elections in November.

"Raising taxes on anyone, especially small businesses, is the wrong thing to do in a struggling economy," Boehner said. "On the issue of job killing tax hikes the American people are not going to accept anything less than the vote that they deserve."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., wouldn't commit to vote on any tax proposals before the election. She did, however, pledge to address them by the end of the year.

"The only thing I can tell you is that the tax cuts for the middle class will be extended this Congress," Pelosi told reporters Thursday.

More than half the country backs raising taxes on the richest Americans, according to a new Associated Press-GfK Poll. The survey showed that by 54 percent to 44 percent, most people support raising taxes on the highest earners.

In a breakdown of the numbers, 39 percent agree with Obama, while 15 percent favor raising taxes on everyone by allowing the cuts to expire at year's end. Still, 44 percent say the existing tax cuts should remain in place for everyone, including the wealthy.

While Obama's plan would spare about 97 percent of tax filers, it would mean big tax increases for the wealthy.

Under Obama's plan, a family of four making $325,000 a year would get a tax increase of $5,400, while the same family making $1 million a year would get a tax increase of $56,300, according to the analysis by Deloitte Tax.

A family of four making $5 million a year would get a tax increase of $325,600.

Pelosi said the nation cannot afford to extend tax cuts for top earners.

"I see no justification for going into debt to foreign countries to underwrite and subsidize tax cuts for the wealthiest people in America," Pelosi said.

Making all the tax cuts permanent would add about $3.9 trillion to the national debt over the next decade, according to congressional estimates. Obama's plan would cost a little more than $3 trillion over the same period.

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