Putting that in the defense bill is the stupidiest thing I have ever heard. If you are going to have immigration reform it should be brought up next year when the senate can fully debate the problem. If this was done for political purposes it will only backfire and make the electorate angry and the democrats could lose votes.

Dream act is an abomination of law. People get something illegally (in this case US residency) and want their children to benefit from their illegal actions. If the dream act is passed then by the same token, when people get stolen merchandise, their kids should also be allowed to keep it and use it.

And all this crap about how we need to embrace those "illegals" who have broken the backs of labor and wages is totally unconstitutional. They are not entitled to anything and not pay the full cost and price of admission. Since any action or adverse situation they might incur in this country, would be as it would be addressed to an ordinary citizen, comes during the ongoing commission of a crime, all the fruits or benefits obtained from the forbidden acts must be surrendered. As long as they remain here without documented legal papers to work here, they are still committing the crime. Earning or possession of anything more than $2,000 in value constitutes FELONY/ GRAND THEFT. Period.
Now can Rich or anybody else please show us the legal precedent that allows a citizen child of felons to retain the sameliving standard or any of the goods that their legally tried parent might have obtained from the commission of a grand theft felonious crime?
What allows the government to cirtcumvent its own laws that are enacted to protect the citizens who pay their salaries?
One in seven Americans now resides in this country at or below the poverty level and this government is facilitating the commission of these aggregious crimes of intent.
NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO BREAK THE LAW AND PROFIT FROM IT. NOBODY!!!
THE DEMS HAVE OPENLY SUPPORTED THIS INVASIONARY FORCE FOR FAR TOO LONG. WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD IT NOR DO WE WANT OUR CHILDREN RETARDED ANY FURTHER BY THIS BILINGUAL DOUBLESPEAK.

What about the people who wait for their turn to come here? Their parents broke the law and now there has to be a tab to be paid! They have been in on the scam with their parents, there is no forgiveness for using the resources that we pay for ! They have not paid taxes and have used Hospitals and all the benefits that are due to citizens of this country!

Richard,
It seems you support the Dream Act and no one other opinion counts. Of everyone who is in disagreement you cannot see one valid point from these viewers? Seriously?
Yes, its sad some of these children were brought in by their parents, illegally but the blame resides with the parents.

By the way, if Colin Powell and others have knowingly hired undocumented illegals instead of paying US citizens their fair wages shouldn't they too be held to the same standards as Bernie Kerik.
All of this perverse elitism and double standard is unconstitutional as well as treasonous and abodes as precedence for justified citizen rebellion to repel tyranny.

Excellent points John!!

What's happening here? It's like that science fiction movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" Except the Aliens are global elitists. The people in power that I trusted to have sound judgment have changed. First Bloomberg, then Koch and now Powell. They look the same but act very different. Who are these people?

"Opponents consider the Dream Act a form of amnesty and have accused Reid and other Democrats of using it to appeal to Hispanic voters, an important constituency, as the midterm elections approach."_ RNN

Perhaps that is the Democrats game but if so, it will surely backfire. Those immigrants Hispanic or otherwise, that struggled hard to become a Citizen legally, might not like the fact that others are simply handed a free pass.

Dream Act - Democratic plot to get permanent Hispanic vote to keep them in power.

America - NO LONGER A 'NATION OF LAWS'

QEUSTION FOR WORKING NEW YORK--1ST AND 3RD Wednesday:

Is this a reason why there are no jobs for Americans WHO ARE SPINNING THEIR WHEELS AT just TEMPORARY, PART-TIME STATE JOBS FOR THE PUBLIC WHO MUST RELY ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR FEDERAL ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS THEREAFTER FOR MEDICAL AND RETIREMENT AND WHATEVER?

These politicians WITH PART-TIME LEGISLATIVE AND CONGRESSIONAL JOBS WITH SALARIES OF $175,000, PLUSSS--PART-TIME JOBS--are selling out the country for the immigrant vote. POLITICIANS WONT HIRE PERMANENT, FULL-TIME STATE AMERICAN EMPLOYEES AND ARE TWEEKING THE STATE ECONOMY WITH THOUSANDS OF TEMPORARY, PART-TIME JOBS RANGING FROM 8 HOURS A WEEK OR MORE--LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE SO MANY MORE STATE JOBS IN NYS, BUT WHO CAN PURCHASE A HOUSE ON A PART-TIME JOB?

E.g., how many Mexicans are left in Mexico?

Dream Act???

Petreaus: "You are in this war, for the rest of our lives..."

Petreaus??? Not a Clue, how to win, NOR THE WILL TO WIN IT... just wants to occupy and hold on - says journalist insider Bob Woodward.

This solidifies my assessment that he is nothing more than the PR poster boy, and bagman for the DOD/IMC and Rocky's well known NWO agenda, for a permanent welfare state, and the war everlasting component for the IMC as it has been structured and established in Afghanistan and Iraq, for which our nation and our people have been held hostage to for the past decade.

Woodward if you read carefully includes CFR houseplant Holbrook and other military chiefs part and parcel to other CFR central figures in the duping of this President for their "war without end" purposes.

Much more... THE WOODWARD BOOK IS A MUST READ FOR EVERYONE IN AMERICA IF WE ARE TO PRESERVE OUR NATION, ITS MORAL HIGH GROUND, THAT TRANSCENDS AS LEGACY TO OUR CHILDREN, OUR FAMILIES TO MAINTAIN THE ETHICAL MORAL HIGH GROUND, AND TRADITIONS OF OUR FOREFATHERS.
Bob Woodward is one of the last investigative journalists we have left that still remains unaffected in the sell out culture that pervades mass media.
Caspian, you should have seen the disgust on Joe Scarboroughs[R] face this morning.
A TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR FOR DOD BIGWIGS TO PLAY WITH FOR maintaining the status quo CONTINUED MILITARY INERTIA, AND STALEMATE AND CROOKED POLITICS IN AFGHANISTAN.
While our sons and daughters and millions of citizens remain jobless, under educated and without the means to attain the American dream or pay for their own healthcare. Oh what a bright future the Bush monkeys have left us.

Another untold fact revealed by Woodward. Daddy Bush's CIA now has a 3,000 man private army that has been put on our tab.

ADD THAT TO- Private armies, mercks paid at the rate of 10x that of enlisted personnel, NO BID CONTRACTS, subsidized mega corporations, $3.1 trillion in loans to banks, the Bush pharmeceuticals healthcare bill $534B, the sale of US ports, the sale of NASDAQ, Dubai controlling our Energy, Khadafy our globalist CFR's politicians newest best friend, selling our shorelines to BP, et tu Petreaus, Rocky & Friends... THANKS FOR NOTHING! PRESIDENT BUSH

THIS NATION IS BEING DRAWN AND QUARTERED BY WELL POSITIONED bilderberg, IMC, trilateral, and CFR INSIDERS.

"Ooooops,... sorry. Wrong "dream act" or is it? ...Never mind." -Emily Latella SNL


****Hmmmmmmmmmmm! Wake up America! "THE TRUTH" IS GAINING IS CATCHING UP TO THEM. Truth is that none of the deficit is not your doing- so why worry about paying any of it? It's theirs, the ones who falsified information to bring us into wars, that they plotted so carefully and precisely with all of the pitfalls, safe havens, and restrictions that they knew in advance of 9/11 that these wars never would end.

CAVEAT EMPTOR!

THE WORLD IS A MELTING POT-- A GROUP OF NATIONS OF IMMIGRANTS--ALMOST ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HOLDS THIS DESIGNATION TODAY--A COUNTRY OF IMMIGRANTS AND A MELTING POT--not just the united states--history--INCLUDING, ENGLAND, CANADA, FRANCE, WHATEVER.

THE NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURES (and the congressmen in Washington, D.C.) IN ALBANY ARE PART-TIME, PUBLIC EMPLOYEES WITH A SARLARY OF $175,000 PLUS EVERYTHING.



The NYS LEGISLATURES WILL NOT HIRE PERMANENT, FULL TIME PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. THE PERMANENT EMPLOYEES ARE BEING PHASED OUT AND REPLACED WITH TEMPORARY, PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.

NYS is tweeking the NYS economy with these part time temporary jobs--it looks like nys is hiring more employees, but they are only part-timers, sometimes only one day AND UNION DUES ARE ROBBED FROM THESE $10 AN HOUR JOB. FOR WHAT?

1954 -- Senator William Jenner said:

"Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people... outwardly we have a Constitutional government.
We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded and is sure that it is the winning side.... ---> All the strange developments in the foreign policy agreements may be traced to "this group" who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure.... This political action group has its own local political support organizations [THE CFR], its own pressure groups[K STREET LOBBYISTS], its own vested interests[GLOBAL EQUITIES CONSORTIUMS], its foothold within our government[THE BILDERBERGERS & THE CFR], and its own propaganda apparatus[MSM]."

*May 18, 1972 -- In speaking of the coming of world government, Roy M. Ash, director of the *Office of Management and Budget, declares that:
"within two decades the institutional framework for a world economic community will be in place... [and] aspects of individual sovereignty will be given over to a supernational authority."

*April, 1974 -- Former U. S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, *Trilateralist and *CFR member Richard Gardner's article The Hard Road to World Order is published in the CFR's Foreign Affairs where he states that:
---> "the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...
--->but, an end run around national sovereignty, ---> eroding it piece by piece, ---> will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."
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1975 -- In Congress, 32 Senators and 92 Representatives sign A Declaration of Interdependence, written by historian Henry Steele Commager. The Declaration states that: "we must join with others to bring forth a new world order... Narrow notions of national sovereignty must not be permitted to curtail that obligation."

*****Congresswoman Marjorie Holt refuses to sign the Declaration saying:
"It calls for the surrender of our national sovereignty to international organizations. It declares that our economy should be regulated by international authorities. ---> It proposes that we enter a 'new world order' that would redistribute the wealth created by the American people."

IT PROPOSES TO REDISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, ... AMERICAN PEOPLE, [not the wealthy who will hoard all of the spoils for themselves]
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1975 -- Retired Navy Admiral Chester Ward, former Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy and former *CFR member, writes in a critique that the goal of the CFR is the "submergence of U. S. sovereignty and national independence into an all powerful one-world government...

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1977 -- The Third Try at World Order is published. Author Harlan Cleveland of the Aspen Institute for Humanistic Studies calls for:
"changing Americans' attitudes and institutions" for 1. "complete disarmament (except for international soldiers)" and 2. "for individual entitlement to food, health and education." THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW!
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1979 -- Barry Goldwater, retiring Republican Senator from Arizona, publishes his autobiography With No Apologies. He writes:

"In my view The *Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power -- political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical

THANK YOU! YOU GLOBALIST BLOOD SUCKERS! How dare you undermine the will of the people to have state of the art healthcare, proper banking and institutional reforms, and the strength, peace and prosperity that was once America, exchanging it for your sinaster, corrupt and decadent and barbaric NWO.
May God have mercy on your darkened perverted souls. Let freedom reign!

How many covens does DR and his pitchforks control and why is the destruction of the constitution and the destruction of the dollar currency the premier and pivotal focal points in the formation of his NWO?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/061008_secret_agenda.htm

1987 -- "The Secret Constitution and the Need for Constitutional Change"- is sponsored in part by the Rockefeller Foundation. Some thoughts of author Arthur S. Miller are:
"... a pervasive system of thought control exists in the United States... the citizenry is indoctrinated by employment of the mass media and the system of public education... people are told what to think about... the old order is crumbling... Nationalism should be seen as a dangerous social disease... A new vision is required to plan and manage the future, a global vision that will transcend national boundaries and eliminate the poison of nationalistic solutions... a new Constitution is necessary."

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June, 1991 -- The Council on Foreign Relations co-sponsors an assembly Rethinking America's Security: Beyond Cold War to New World Order which is attended by 65 prestigious members of government, labor, academia, the media, military, and the professions from nine countries. Later, several of the conference participants joined some 100 other world leaders for another closed door meeting of the Bilderberg Society in Baden Baden, Germany. The Bilderbergers also exert considerable clout in determining the foreign policies of their respective governments. While at that meeting, David Rockefeller said in a speech:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times[NOW HEADED BY MEXICAN PUPPET], Time Magazine and other great publications[FOX-HEADED BY MURDOCK AUSTRALIAN] whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. ---> It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government.
WATCH OUT HERE COMES THE KICKER, AMERICA!
... The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
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September 29, 1992 -- At a town hall meeting in Los Angeles, Trilateralist and former *CFR president Winston Lord delivers a speech titled Changing Our Ways: America and the New World, in which he remarks:

"To a certain extent, we are going to have to yield some of our sovereignty, which will be controversial at home... [Under] the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA)... some Americans[10'S OF MILLIONS ALREADY] are going to be hurt as low-wage jobs are "taken" away."
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July 18, 1993 -- *CFR member and *Trilateralist Henry Kissinger writes in the Los Angeles Times concerning NAFTA:

"What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system... a first step toward a new world order." [FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS, GATT]

I will let these headlines speak for themselves. View for yourself the Hypocrisy!!:

Mexico Promises to Block Border Wall Plan Dec 20 07:02 PM US/Eastern
By MARK STEVENSON Associated Press Writer MEXICO CITY (AP) - -The Mexican government, angered by a U.S. proposal to extend a wall along the border to keep out migrants, pledged Tuesday to block the plan and organize an international campaign against it.


Mexico is building it’s own Southern Border Wall with Guatemala. Where is the MSM? ---Posted on September 22, 2010 by notalemming


U.S. Loaned Mexico Over $1 Billion to Drill Oil in Gulf Mexico; $1 Billion More Planned This Year --- CNS News ^ | Sept 8 2010 | Matt Cover


20 Sep 2010 15:39:08 GMT Source: Reuters
ENERGY LEGISLATION ---The Obama administration and Democrats in Congress want to clamp down on the oil industry's offshore drilling practices after the massive Gulf of Mexico spill. There is a ban on deepwater drilling in the Gulf as well as investigations into companies involved in the blown-out well owned by BP and major energy legislation in Congress.

Caspian, Mike G: HOT NEWS!!! Don't miss MSNBCs Olbermann or Rachel Maddow tonight.
Tape them if you cannot watch, or catch the reruns tomorrow. Great stuff on C Street- ... and the Bush tax cuts, supposedly for "small businesses" ... not small businesses at all. In fact, these are small empires that Republicans are masking that will keep them not paying their fair share of taxes- forever. Hint: [Bechtel- Bush/ Cheney, and John McCains beer empire top the charts.
Gee, who could have imagined?
AMAZING STUFF! DON'T MISS IT!

Caspian, MikeG, MikeQ, Kathy, robert, fred, Big Bob, Gail, MAGs, RF & AW, RNN Staff:

THE GREAT REPUBLICAN "SMALL BUSINESS" TAX BREAK SCAM. Listen for John Boehners smug revelation turned on him, then comes the "twisted" acknowledgment of his own deceit when being trapped with no where to go by the crafty wording he has employed to dupe the rest of the American public, AND THE OTHER 97% OF SMALL BUSINESSES into thinking he and his party were representing YOU.

THE GREAT REPUBLICAN "SMALL BUSINESS" SCAM- (small in name only)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#39316659


*JUST LET IT PLAY THROUGH(SKIP COMMERCIALS). THIS IS THE EDUCATION AND ELUCIDATION WE ALL NEEDED TO SEE THROUGH THE GIMMICKS OF THE TAXCODE AND WHO EXACTLY GAMES THE SYSTEM- that will pay nothing toward the infrastructure protections, and services that rest of us provide for them. Allow yourselves to become thoroughly informed. Do not miss asingle minute

NOW I'LL ASK ALL OF YOU AGAIN- DO YOU STILL WANT TO COVER AND PAY FOR THE TAXBREAKS OF THE TOP .01% ???

*It also clearly defines the cross purposes of the "blue dog" demon-crats who will snipe and derail any policy to raise the middle class.

May God bless you all, and unite us!
ONE NATION UNDER HIS PROTECTION, WITH THE STRENGTH AND INTEGRITY TO RESIST MANIACAL TEMPTATIONS TO FEAR, OR PASSIVELY WATCH AS OTHERS AS WELL AS YOUR BROTHERS ARE RUTHLESSLY HARMED, BY THOSE WHO HAVE CAREFULLY CRAFTED, WORMHOLED, THEN INDOCTRINATED UNBRIDLED GREED, & DECEIT INTO THE VERY FRAMEWORK OF OUR NATION.

RF & AW RNN Staff:
One guess. What do the greedy double dealing "blood suckers" who sent us into wars, that they now say- but, "knew in advance" would have no ending, want to collateralize and privatize next on the backs of the rest of tax paying America?
Who wants to venture venture the first guess?

Caspian, Mike G: HOT NEWS!!! Don't miss MSNBCs Olbermann or Rachel Maddow tonight.

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Golden.

"NOW I'LL ASK ALL OF YOU AGAIN- DO YOU STILL WANT TO COVER AND PAY FOR THE TAXBREAKS OF THE TOP .01% ???" -John

John, BTW if Fox news is right wing propaganda, then surely MSNBC is left wing propaganda.

However, I watched the video and see where you are coming from. While I agree with the fact the rich must pay their fair share. Our philosophies differ in that I think we have much more important things to worry about.

Let me use the Titantic analogy to try and explain.

If you saw the movie Titantic what stood out the most was the class difference on the ship. The rich will always use their power and means to survive even at the expense of the poor. They made sure THEY were on the life boats by using their money and blocking the poor from having a chance. Ofcourse this is wrong and an injustice. That one would think their life means more then another, simply because they have more is completely not right.

However, what matters to me most right now is not whether or not the rich get tax breaks or don't but how do we avoid the iceberg in the first place. You may think we hit the iceberg already and that the ship is sinking and there is no hope but there is still hope. Bush and the Republicans steered us into very dangerous territory but Captain Obama and his crew is determined to hit the iceberg and sink us for sure.

Obama claims he saved us from a depression but his policies, his over spending, lack of concern for the deficit, his ideology, his inability to create jobs, his lack of concern for jobs going over seas, his apparent push for a NWO, his willful disregard for our borders and his willful ignorance of the American people, is putting us on a collision course with that iceberg.

IMO, first we need to change course completely. Then we need to concern ourselves with who pays more taxes, before good ship America sinks.

John, BTW if Fox news is right wing propaganda, then surely MSNBC is left wing propaganda. TELL ME WHAT IN THE VIDEO CAN YOU SAY IS DISINGENUOUS OR AN EXXAGERATION OF THE TRUTHS RELAYED. I'LL BE GLAD TO LISTEN AND EVALUATE WITH AN OPEN MIND .


However, I watched the video and see where you are coming from. While I agree with the fact the rich must pay their fair share. THEIR "FAIR SHARE" -THIS YEAR. WHAT ABOUT WHAT THEY DID TO SHRED THE MIDDLE CLASS OVER THE PAST DECADE IN ORDER TO AMASS THEIR 63% CURRENT HOLDINGS OF OUR NATIONS TOTAL GDP? THEN TOSS THE NATIONAL DEBT WHICH THEY THINK THAT THEY CAN PASS ONTO US FOR THEIR INCOMPETANCY- OVER TIME W/ INTEREST. IF THE CLINTON TAX RATE WAS 39% AND 22MILLION JOBS WERE CREATED- THEN THEIR CAN BE NO ARGUMENT THAT IF RAISED TO THE SAME LEVELS AND GIVEN THE SAME COMMITMENT JOBS WILL AGAIN FLOURISH SO LONG AS THEY ARE CREATED HERE.
REMEMBER THEY INHERITED A SURPLUS WHEN THEY ENTERED INTO THE GAMES OF "SHADOW WARFARES" NOT AGAINST ANY ENEMY BUT, AGAINST US.
*THEY MEANING THE BANKERS, THE IMC, AND THE OIL DEGENERATES. Our philosophies differ in that I think we have much more important things to worry about. I AGREE. YOU GO FIRST TELL US WHAT YOU ARE MOST WORRIED ABOUT.

John, I suppose I am worried about most of the same things you are. Jobs / economy being number one.

I think where our philosophies differ is I blame the government, government policies and corruption as the number one reason for our problems. Starting with policies like NAFTA to corrupt special interests favors to bailouts to punishing the just and ignoring the guilty.

Don't get me wrong, it is not that I am saying those that took advantage and stole from us should not have to pay it back but pay it back directly to us and not through the corrupt middlemen. Otherwise, lets get our house in order first before we entrust them with more of our money.

So I must disagree with one of your statements. It is not to say that jobs can't flourish at a 39% tax rate but to say that is the reason why it would, I don't understand. The government is spending money like drunken sailors on what they think is of value. Up to this point, it has not been jobs for us. They should not take anymore of anybody's money, until they sober up and spend responsibly.

Hey John. NAFTA sellout Bill Clinton is the Bilderburg poster boy.

I dont think anyone on this board has a clue of how the Bush tax cuts work.

"I dont think anyone on this board has a clue of how the Bush tax cuts work."


Well here's a clue Fred on how it will work without them.
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BE AFRAID! BE VERY VERY AFRAID! (Lying Democrats - Just as Predicted)


YAHOO NEWS
Expiring tax cuts hit taxpayers at every level:
Thu Sep 16, 7:09

WASHINGTON – Here's some pressure for lawmakers: If they don't reach agreement on extending soon-to-expire Bush-era tax cuts, nearly all their constituents back home will get big tax increases.

A typical family of four with a household income of $50,000 a year would have to pay $2,900 more in taxes in 2011, according to a new analysis by Deloitte Tax LLP, a tax consulting firm. The same family making $100,000 a year would see its taxes rise by $4,500.

Wealthier families face even bigger tax hikes. A family of four making $500,000 a year would pay $10,800 more in taxes. The same family making $1 million a year would get a tax increase of $52,300.

The estimates are based on total household income, including wages, capital gains and qualified dividends. The estimated tax bills take into account typical deductions at each income level.

Democrats have been arguing for much of the past decade that tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003 under former President George W. Bush provided a windfall for the wealthy. That's true, but they also reduced taxes for the working poor, the middle class, and just about everyone in between.

Those tax cuts expire at the end of the year, setting the stage for a high-stakes debate just before congressional elections in November. If Congress fails to act, families at every income level will see more taxes being withheld from their paychecks come January.

The tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003 reduced marginal income tax rates at every level. They also provided a wide range of income tax breaks for education, families with children and married couples.

Taxes on capital gains and dividends were reduced, while the federal estate tax was gradually repealed, though only for this year.

President Barack Obama wants to extend the tax cuts for individuals making less than $200,000 and joint filers making less than $250,000 in adjusted gross income. That's income from wages, capital gains and dividends, before standard deductions and exemptions are subtracted.

Republicans and a growing number of Democrats in Congress want to extend all the tax cuts, at least temporarily.

On Thursday, House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio said he wants an up-or-down vote on extending all the tax cuts before congressional elections in November.

"Raising taxes on anyone, especially small businesses, is the wrong thing to do in a struggling economy," Boehner said. "On the issue of job killing tax hikes the American people are not going to accept anything less than the vote that they deserve."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., wouldn't commit to vote on any tax proposals before the election. She did, however, pledge to address them by the end of the year.

"The only thing I can tell you is that the tax cuts for the middle class will be extended this Congress," Pelosi told reporters Thursday.

More than half the country backs raising taxes on the richest Americans, according to a new Associated Press-GfK Poll. The survey showed that by 54 percent to 44 percent, most people support raising taxes on the highest earners.

In a breakdown of the numbers, 39 percent agree with Obama, while 15 percent favor raising taxes on everyone by allowing the cuts to expire at year's end. Still, 44 percent say the existing tax cuts should remain in place for everyone, including the wealthy.

While Obama's plan would spare about 97 percent of tax filers, it would mean big tax increases for the wealthy.

Under Obama's plan, a family of four making $325,000 a year would get a tax increase of $5,400, while the same family making $1 million a year would get a tax increase of $56,300, according to the analysis by Deloitte Tax.

A family of four making $5 million a year would get a tax increase of $325,600.

Pelosi said the nation cannot afford to extend tax cuts for top earners.

"I see no justification for going into debt to foreign countries to underwrite and subsidize tax cuts for the wealthiest people in America," Pelosi said.

Making all the tax cuts permanent would add about $3.9 trillion to the national debt over the next decade, according to congressional estimates. Obama's plan would cost a little more than $3 trillion over the same period.

Anyone who advocates raising taxes -on anyone- is a fucking moron.

YOUR govt waste's 100's and 100's of billions of dollars everyear and you want to give them more!

Whats the matter wih you people? US Govt financial waste, mis-management, and out right fraud is legendary and you support that by advocating higher taxes on your fellow citizens. Get over yourselves, f'n losers.

All that new tax money will come out of the economy and into the hands of congress. You dopey schmucks, where do the so called rich keep their money? Its invested in our economy! DUH!

All that new tax money will come out of the economy and into the hands of congress. You dopey schmucks, where do the so called rich keep their money? *

*Its invested in our economy! DUH!


NO, FRED. THE CORPORATIST GLOBALISTS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WERE ONCE FUNDED AND ROCK SOLID PERFORMERS WITH THE PROFIT MONEY PERCENTAGES TAKEN FROM THE TOP FROM THEIR WORKERS LABOR. COMPOUNDED BY CONVINCING THE WORKER INTO RECYCLING OF WAGES INTO THOSE ONCE DOMESTIC CORPORATIONS FOR GROWTH. GLOBALISTS WHO HAVE NOW TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US- DON'T PAY US TAXES, AND HAVE MOVED THEIR HQ'S OFFSHORE. LEAVING US TO PAY THE TAB FOR THEIR DEBT.

Do you really thing that the filthy mega rich need to avoid paying their taxes? that top .01% now has total ownership of 48% of American product. Why should the shrinking wage earning middle class have to bear the entire burden for the entire country, while these clowns continue to step on us with jackboots siphon and switch blade in hand.

Ask yourself this question and answer it honestly.
Who is being protected by our military is it us here or them and their offshore tax exempt dealings. If the answer is the latter let them sort it out amongst themselves- bankers, oil barrons and multi-national corporations to pay the full freight of our DOD budgets.
We man the agencies that our rightful fair and balanced contribution that keeps them honest, they fund the cost of their operations from a percentage of their massive quarterly/annual profits.

Ya think!

All that new tax money will come out of the economy and into the hands of congress. You dopey schmucks, where do the so called rich keep their money? *

*Its invested in our economy! DUH!


NO, FRED. THE CORPORATIST GLOBALISTS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WERE ONCE FUNDED AND ROCK SOLID PERFORMERS WITH THE PROFIT MONEY PERCENTAGES TAKEN FROM THE TOP FROM THEIR WORKERS LABOR. COMPOUNDED BY CONVINCING THE WORKER INTO RECYCLING OF WAGES INTO THOSE ONCE DOMESTIC CORPORATIONS FOR GROWTH. GLOBALISTS WHO HAVE NOW TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US- DON'T PAY US TAXES, AND HAVE MOVED THEIR HQ'S OFFSHORE. LEAVING US TO PAY THE TAB FOR THEIR DEBT.

Do you really thing that the filthy mega rich need to avoid paying their taxes? that top .01% now has total ownership of 48% of American product. Why should the shrinking wage earning middle class have to bear the entire burden for the entire country, while these clowns continue to step on us with jackboots siphon and switch blade in hand.

Ask yourself this question and answer it honestly.
Who is being protected by our military is it us here or them and their offshore tax exempt dealings. If the answer is the latter let them sort it out amongst themselves- bankers, oil barrons and multi-national corporations to pay the full freight of our DOD budgets.
We man the agencies that our rightful fair and balanced contribution that keeps them honest, they fund the cost of their operations from a percentage of their massive quarterly/annual profits. Not to mention the bonuses taken off the top from our $900b loan to them.

Ya think!