Palin Supporters' Strange World

Mom, Why Do You Want Me to Go to Iraq?

The Sidewalk to Nowhere, McCain Supporters in Bethlehem, PA

Tell McCain to End the Politics of Hate

Sarah Palin and John McCain got caught lying to Americans
Debunking Palin's Jet Sold on eBay Story on CNN

The Palins’ un-American activities
Imagine if the Obamas had hooked up with a violently anti-American group in league with the government of Iran. / Oct. 7, 2008 | “My government is my worst enemy. I’m going to fight them with any means at hand.”
This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.
Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that’s the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. (“Keep up the good work,” Palin told AIP members. “And God bless you.”)

This is EXACTLY why i dont come to RNN as much these days, people like Caspian come here and 'flood' the message board with partison links from partison websites and he does it ALL THE TIME, what is it with this guy? sorry caspian i dont want to attack you but you do this 24/7

Lets urge caution during this we dont know all the facts, yet i have MSN as my webpage and they were blaming Palin/tea-party/Reps within 1 hour of the shooting. 1 whole hour and no facts yet their they are blaming Palin, its a joke... Both Reps and Dems "target" (the term Palin used) to go after congressional/senatorial races, end of story


Remember the ft hood shootings? Many liberals urged 'caution' yet the same people POUNCED and BLAMED Palin within 1 whole hour of the tragedy and NOT knowing the facts!!!!

Lisa my friend.

Is this not true?

BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | Rage on the Radio | Full Segment | PBS

GM Courts Talk Radio Hosts
by Ralph Nader August 11, 2007
Just when one guesses that the standards and practices of national talk radio could go no lower, General Motors comes along to show the way to new lows.
Automotive News (August 6, 2007), the leading trade journal for the industry, reports that GM is wooing the radio stars. Its article led with the headline: “Puff Piece. Rush Limbaugh is one of the radio personalities GM is working with to talk up its vehicles.”

What is surprising is that GM purportedly enlisted not only the expected suspects like Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Bill O’Reilly but also Bill Press and Ed Schultz, know for their liberal views. Attempts to reach Press, Schultz and Hannity were unsuccessful. Surely, they will be explaining their relationship shortly.

This was a tragedy that rep gifford was shot by this madmen. It will put all politicians on notice when they attend events in the future. But every time there is a tragedy we play this blame game. This individual was mentally unbalanced and not coherent and probable could not comprehend a political view if he wanted too. But to blame sarah palin fox news and other republicans is nonsense. As much as I detest some of their remarks the correct way if you do not like a politician if to defeat them in the next election by volunteering your services writing letters to newspapers not shooting them. But everytime since the kennedy assination school shootings americans have this blame game about various groups and the person doing the shootings are mentally unbalanced. Our democracy will survive in the future.

The kid, sorry libs, the alleged perpetrator of this heinous act, was a crazy POTHEAD.

Rather than make laws limiting speech, perhaps those working so hard to making pot legal would like to reconsider.

Any decent person knows that angry, hateful and disrespectful rhetoric is not something to be condoned. However, those who use a tragedy like this as an opportunity to advance their political point of view, should be the most ashamed. Only hours after the shooting, certain media and people tried to blame those who's politics they disagree with, when clearly there was no evidence that the shooter was influenced by anything but his own demented mind.

I feel the written dialog by RNN on this subject showed a somewhat non-partisan balance and Peter is 100% on target with his comments. Perhaps, this is a reason to hope, that someday we will all get along a little better.

I forgot to get rid of that old link

Is it not time to hold the person who actually committed the crime responsible for their action, not the media, not the manufactures, not the education. As you said, he was not in a vacuum. None of us are. We all have the same information but it’s up to the individual on how one deal with it. He chose to kill. He needs to suffer the consequences of his actions, no one else. He did it. No matter what’s on TV or in the media. This goes for guns, drunk driving, and anything else that result in death or injury.

yes the rhetoric has gone way too far, Sarah Palin and others like her should be held accountable for their tactics, they should be ashamed , this is a very said day for the American people, and the fact that the tea party and their followers are allowed to behave in such a despicable manner, is jus beyond me,:(

Question?

Has Anti-Government Rhetoric Gone Too Far?


"The point of view can be likened to both perspective and focalization.

Point of view describes the position from which the events in a story are narrated; the perceptions and conceptions of whomever's point of view is featured controls the way a narrative is presented to an audience"

This shooting is being used as political fodder and the political media are getting all the mileage out of it that they can.

The finger pointing, fault finding. LEFT vs RIGHT political discourse has become disgusting.

It is shameful to use the murder of innocents for political 'points.'

I spoke too soon. During the broadcast RNN admits there is no connection to the shooter and any one person or specific rhetoric. So instead, they attack certain Republicans, the Tea Party, talk radio, Fox news, Glenn Beck and so on, as a whole. They claim they created the rhetoric that acts as fuel that drives weak minded individual over the edge. In my opinion, the source of the division and anger in this country is media like RNN. I hold them responsible.

.. Good post Mike G

.. Its funny how the phoney partison liberals and there allies in the media tell us to 'hold caution' when the Fort Hood shootings occured, remember that people? lets not pre-judge, lets not jump 2 conclusions but with this shootin? ---- INSTANT BLAME GAME WITHOUT FACTS!


.. How about the media MILKING this story for rating$


..How about the some of the terms that Obama has called Republicans? ha people - how about terms like "hostage takers", (for tax cuts) "enemies" (for illegal immigration) "told to sit in the back of the bus" (during election) and even the cambridge police where he opened his mouth before knowing all the facts!


.. Do u remember the names Bush was called by the left for 8 years? From Kennedy, to Dick Durbin, to Pelosi, Kerry, Hillary, to the fringe elements like Jackson and Sharpton who have incited violence!


.. This was a sick young man who fell through the cracks and acted irrationally, Its pretty clear that MANY have used this opportunity to promote their agenda and politics and
rhetoric, thats pretty obvious and pretty lame! BTW he killed a Republican judge and innocent people

.. Sad day and very very telling of the media and the left in this country

Just so no one gets the wrong idea and believes the one sided partisanship displayed tonight.

Democratic Congressman on GOP Gov. Rick Scott: 'They ought to put him against a wall and shoot him.'

While Paul Krugman and other liberal commentators continue to exploit this weekend's tragedy by making hay out of supposedly extreme rhetoric on the right, perhaps they would do well to examine some of the rhetoric that has come from the left. On October 23, The Scranton Times reported that Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa., said this about Florida's new Republican Governor Rick Scott:

"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida," Mr. Kanjorski said. "Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a damn crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks."

Kanjorski did not win reelection in November. Perhaps the former Congressman was not sincere when he suggested Scott be shot, nonetheless this remark is a far more literal and explict call to violence than the relatively benign (and bipartisan) matter of putting than targets on a map. Yet, Kanjorski's remarks were virtually ignored at the time. One wonders what the reaction would have been if a Republican congressman had called for a Democrat to be put against a wall and shot. I very much doubt it would have been dismissed by Democrats and the national media.

ssst, ssst, ssst ...SARA

Raven hair and ruby lips
Sparks fly from her serpent lips.
Echoed voices in the night,
She's a demonic spirit
Spewing endless frights.

Ooh, ooh witchy woman
She's got the fire in her eyes,
Ooh, ooh witchy woman
She calculatingly incites murder with her seething cries.

She held him spellbound thru the nights
Camping, and planning under tent light fire light.
Crazy laughter in another room
Til his mind turned to actions with 9mm booms.

Oooh oooh withcy woman,
She how hard she ties...
Oooh, oooh witchy woman
SEE HER MAP OF EVILS- AS SHE SCRAMBLED...
TO REMOVE IT- FROM HER FACEBOOK DISGUISE.

Caveat Emptor! YOU WERE ALL WARNED ABOUT THE METHODS OF HER MADNESS A LONG TIME AGO.

Question: What is the appropriate penalty for those who "deliberately" seek to incite riotous, anti American, anti-social behaviors with the hope that there will be at least one unbalanced soul out there that would become so smitten by her charm that might trigger a disasterous event?
Now, compound that same penalty for any incident going into the future that evolves nationwide.

No, neither the right wing nor does the opportunist Republican base have the exclusive right in this country to form its own "psycho" hit squads and casually fluff it all off as the act of the deranged. Not when they've incited both the method and the means[NRA- BRAZEN DEFIANCE OF SOCIAL ORDER BY GUN TOTING IN PUBLIC ATTENDING POLITICAL EVENTS] as modus operandi.

ssst, ssst, ssst ...SARA

Raven hair and ruby lips
Sparks fly from her serpent lips.
Echoed voices in the night,
She's a demonic spirit
Spewing endless frights.

Ooh, ooh witchy woman
She's got the fire in her eyes,
Ooh, ooh witchy woman
She calculatingly incites murder with her seething cries.

She held him spellbound thru the nights
Camping, and planning under tent light fire light.
Crazy laughter in another room
Til his mind turned to actions with 9mm booms.

Oooh oooh withcy woman,
She how hard she tries...
Oooh, oooh witchy woman
SEE HER MAP OF EVILS- AS SHE SCRAMBLES...
TO REMOVE IT- FROM HER FACEBOOK DISGUISE.

Caveat Emptor! YOU WERE ALL WARNED ABOUT THE METHODS OF HER MADNESS A LONG TIME AGO.

Duh! Dum, de, dum, dumb. Same old PNAC, same old sponsors. CAUGHT AGAIN! WITH THEIR FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER YET ANOTHER FLAGRANT ATTEMPT WITH THE SERPENT TONGUE TO DESTROY AMERICA- AND THE INEVITABLE PAPER TRAIL THAT LEADS RIGHT BACK TO THEIR LAIR.

~~~ssssSerpents always use double speak to convey their darkest messages.

SADDAM REGIME CHANGE- "what is needed to get the American public behind this is a Pearl Harbor event" - PNAC ---> 9/11

"America as we have known it, has been changed forever by this event..."- George W Bush

Osama- Wanted: Dead or Alive??? ... or not at all

"Torture??? What's that? Let's go waterboarding. heh heh "Boys will be, boys" heh heh.

Hey Guys, it seems that we got away with all of that- let's escalate.
Call Dick Armey, bring in the witches let's go downright ballistic on anyone who opposes our agenda.
The lower ranks of our base will do anything, and I mean anything for a chance to suck down a beer or dress a moose with a good lure.


Shit- if Cheney can shoot a man in his face, fail to report the crime, endorse torture and not pay for the crimes of outting a CIA agent, falsifying the documents sending us to war, then creating his own offshore safehouse in Dubai, who is gonna do a thing about our handpicked mistress of venom and her voluptuous distractions?

Yikes!!! Damn that paper trail.

We Will Overthrow The Government ---- Calls For Violence Repeatedly Stoked By Conservative Voices / Oct 8th, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/y98m9gf
Last week, the right-wing media outlet Newsmax — which receives 4 million unique monthly visitors and 130,000 print subscribers — published a column by conservative author John Perry arguing that a military coup could “resolve” the “radical left…Obama problem.” After being widely criticized, Newsmax retracted the column. However, the column appears to have encouraged an already angry group of anti-Obama radicals who have been plotting violence against the government.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/08/anti-obama-violence/

The Left’s Script of Hate:

January 11

“Just the facts, ma’am,” Dragnet’s Joe Friday famously informed witnesses he interviewed. Oft-interviewed Pima County Sherriff Clarence Dupnik might adopt the catchphrase: “Save the facts, ma’am. Just the narrative.”

The narrative of right-wing rhetoric fueling accused mass-murderer Jared Lee Loughner proved so seductive to partisans that they didn’t wait for the compilation of facts, or burial of the dead, to advance their politically opportunistic story. If it helped the Democrats rebound in the wake of the Oklahoma City Bombing, why can’t this meme work for them after the attempted assassination of Democrat Gabrielle Giffords?

Not-camera shy sheriff Dupnik partly blamed “the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business” for the shooting. The alleged shooter, who has remained mum, said nothing to indicate as much to the elected lawman. Dupnik subsequently acknowledged on Fox News that not facts, just his opinion, informed the statement.

If a sheriff can’t keep from editorializing, one can perhaps forgive actual editorialists for editorializing.

“We won’t know for a while exactly why the gunman identified as Jared Lee Loughner, 22, shot 18 people, including Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords,” Joan Walsh wrote on the day of the shooting at Salon.com. She then proceeded to insinuate that Sarah Palin, Giffords’ 2010 Republican opponent Jesse Kelly, Bill O’Reilly, Sharon Angle, and Glenn Beck somehow bare responsibility for the madman’s attack.

Apparently reading from the same sheet of music, Keith Olbermann dedicated his Saturday night broadcast—MSNBC preempting a weekend prison documentary?—to self-servingly blaming his political enemies for the Tucson slaughter. Mentions of the alleged slaughterer were few. Olbermann’s Two-Minutes’ Hate culminated in a nine-minute “Special Comment.” The former Sports Center mainstay emotionally invoked the names of conservatives Sarah Palin, Jesse Kelly, Allen West, Sharon Angle, and Glenn Beck before bothering a passing mention to the actual killer around the four-minute mark. “He was not just a madman incited by a thousand daily temptations by slightly less madmen to do things they would not rationally condone,” the face of MSNBC lectured.

New York Times columnist Paul Krugman divined “a connection between the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc. and the violence I fear we’re going to see in the months and years ahead. But violent acts are what happen when you create a climate of hate.”

Leftists Were For Hateful and Violent Rhetoric Before They Were Against it:

January 11, 2011

In 2006 I discovered the gaction forumsh of MoveOn.org, where the then burgeoning gnetrootsh posted messages like this:

Bush is no Hitler. Hitler was a socialist and believed in something beside money. He did not dodge real military service and he believed at least in Germany, which was a real nation and not a corporation like the US. Moreover, Hitler did not use depleted uranium and phosphorous to burn people alive. He did not condone the torture of prisoners efor funf or eto relieve stress.f

and this:

school curricula are dominated by the Talmud, especially a specific Talmudic text called Shulhan Aruch.
In this text, Jews are commanded to slaughter non-Jews who are viewed more or less as animals or at least lesser human beings.

So routine were anti-Semitism and pro-Nazi sentiments that MoveOn was forced to close their forums to the public and eventually shut them down all together.
They did this without much fanfare or condemnation for the White Nationalists who infested their forums and openly supported MoveOn.orgfs anti-Republican and anti-Jewish agenda. MoveOn.org remains a a powerful force in Democratic politics despite being exposed as anti-Catholic, anti-Evangelical, anti-Jewish and anti-American. Herefs another sample of hateful rhetoric found in the gaction forumsh of MoveOn.org:

We can all see how AIPAC/Israel has taken control of America. Not to get nasty but jews have a long history of subverting governments for their own enrichment and glory to the detriment of whole societies. Many more than g6 millionh have died by semetic aggression, 100Œs of millions even, remember the conqueror writes history. Even the roman empire feared jewish power. Over and over again, whites, particularly semites have distorted truth through their supremacist, zenophobic minds. Ariel Sharon Oct of 2001 per Kol Israel, gc Donft worry about america, we control america and the americans know it.h There is a mental pathology gripping my tribe, as the native americans say, gwhite man have forked tongueh, we must become enlightened, or we will be destroyed.

And herefs another gem:

The Jews have 9,000 prisoners the Arabs have 3.
Itfs the Jews that are trying to push the Arabs into the sea by occupying and annexing their land, bulldozing refugee camps and orchards.
The Jews are killing the Arabs on a ratio of 10 to 1.
The Palestinians live in a prison, no way in or out without passing through an abusive Jewish guard gate.
The Jews demand that the Pals. disarm prior to any negotiating of what if anything theyfll get back. That is called begging not negotiating.
Nearly 3/4 of the entire Jewish population was exterminated. If you canft tell us why, We are stuck with logic and commonsense.
Ifm saying Jews instead of Israelis because I read the Israeli newspapers, the gIsraeli Lobbyh papers and have seen the House vote 410-8 in support Israel while the UN typically votes 191-4 against Israel. Also the billions in aid and military equipment are conspicuous. The world court unanimously voted against Israel.
By blaming Hitler you donft have to face the truth.
I will stop condemning Jews when they become acclimated with all people.
Stop professing to know and start reading.

When that last passage was observed by one of the earliest critics of MoveOn.org it was gagreed withh by 9 out of 12 MoveOn readers who bothered to rank it. 75% of MoveOn.org activists who had a strong enough opinion to express it in public about the above attack on Jews supported it.

In 2010 a report was released that showed hate crimes against Jews had increased in America. For the last decade, hate crimes against Jews have increased every year. Yet I have never heard anyone attack the Left for using violent anti-Jewish rhetoric aimed at forming alliances with neo-Nazis and jihadists.

There also wasnft much of a to-do from the Left when MoveOn.org was exposed as working on behalf of the Marxist terror group FARC.

Time and again when the George Soros-funded MoveOn.org was shown sinking to unfathomable depths of racist depravity they were allowed to simply remove the offending posts and continue operations as usual. They are not the only leftist group that has used the violent rhetoric of White Nationalism to rally their base.

Daily Kos diarists are known for extreme anti-Semitism. One diarist with the handle Beezling published a post explaining how good he felt every time an I.D.F. trooper was killed. That Kossack was ginvestigative journalisth Alex Brant-Zawadzki, who currently writes slanderous articles about the Tea Party for Huffington Post. The Left has clearly not distanced itself from his violent and hateful rhetoric.

Former Kossack and current gPalestinian activisth Haitham Sabbah posted large quantities of anti-Semitic material to Daily Kos, which was near universally approved of. Perhaps the most infamous example was his use of a video produced by the White Nationalist Vanguard News Network in a post critical of Jewish influence on American politics.

So severe was Daily Kose anti-Semitic rhetoric that one Jewish Kossack posted a diary detailing his disgust with the amount of Jew hatred on the site - at which point dozens of Kossacks showed up to call him a Jewy Jew.

Is Daily Kos responsible, at least in part, for the rise in anti-Jewish hate crimes?

There is something about the ideology of the so called gnetrootsh that attracts White Nationalists, neo-Nazis and other Jew haters. In 2006 one moderator at Democratic Underground expressed frustration at the site being overrun with David Duke supporters. Early in 2009 Think Progress ran a hit piece on Rick Santelli that ended up having to have its comment section closed due to comments like this:

Santelli is just another rich thug. Odds are good hefs a crackpot Zionist who thinks itfs okay to give billions to loser, Jewish owned and run banks but not to loser home owners. Okay to give money to Jewish owned and run investment banks, but donft help the auto industry which employs millions of honest Americans.

I say we nail the Zionists to a cross.

Ifm still waiting to see a denouncement of all this hate by the commenters now blaming Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh for the Tuscon massacre even though there is a much clearer link between leftist anti-Semitism and violence than there is between conservative troop rallying and the actions of a pot smoking, left-leaning 9/11 truther.

Which doesnft really bother me because I donft blame Daily Kos, Think Progress or Democratic Underground for the people who commit hate crimes against Jews. I do think they cater to them, but leftism is the product of the world view that sees class and race warfare as the natural state of things. Claiming the Left causes anti-Semitism is like claiming drug dealers cause addiction. Drug dealers exist because there are people who want drugs, and anti-Semitism exists because there are people who want to hate. The Left may have moral responsibility in profiting off anti-Semitism, but they donft cause anti-Jewish violence.

A personfs ideology may influence the targets he or she selects but it doesnft change whether or not they are criminals. The heated rhetoric of activists on either side of the political spectrum are no more responsible for violence than Jodie Foster is responsible for Hinckleyfs attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan.

But the Left does attract more violent people into its fold than the right, as Michelle Malkin rightfully points out. Of course, more meth users are attracted to living in trailer parks which doesnft mean double wides cause meth addiction. The activist Left is the trailer park of American politics, so it will have more than its share of tweakers.

But I would never call for them to be silenced. Thatfs the real difference between the Left and the Right. The amoral left is using the actions of a drug addled degenerate for political gain, hoping to author new gun control laws and limits on free speech using the blood of innocents as ink. But the blood of innocent Jews is even now flowing in the streets of our cities without condemnation from anyone on the vile anti-Semitism that is part and parcel of the American Left.

I guess thatfs the good kind of hateful and violent rhetoric.

Re-posted for editing (quotation marks failed to translate properly)
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Leftists Were For Hateful and Violent Rhetoric Before They Were Against it:

January 11, 2011

In 2006 I discovered the "action forums"of MoveOn.org, where the then burgeoning "netroots" posted messages like this:

Bush is no Hitler. Hitler was a socialist and believed in something beside money. He did not dodge real military service and he believed at least in Germany, which was a real nation and not a corporation like the US. Moreover, Hitler did not use depleted uranium and phosphorous to burn people alive. He did not condone the torture of prisoners "for fun" or "to relieve stress."

and this:

school curricula are dominated by the Talmud, especially a specific Talmudic text called Shulhan Aruch.
In this text, Jews are commanded to slaughter non-Jews who are viewed more or less as animals or at least lesser human beings.

So routine were anti-Semitism and pro-Nazi sentiments that MoveOn was forced to close their forums to the public and eventually shut them down all together.
They did this without much fanfare or condemnation for the White Nationalists who infested their forums and openly supported MoveOn.orgfs anti-Republican and anti-Jewish agenda. MoveOn.org remains a a powerful force in Democratic politics despite being exposed as anti-Catholic, anti-Evangelical, anti-Jewish and anti-American. Herefs another sample of hateful rhetoric found in the "action forums"of MoveOn.org:

We can all see how AIPAC/Israel has taken control of America. Not to get nasty but jews have a long history of subverting governments for their own enrichment and glory to the detriment of whole societies. Many more than "6 million" have died by semetic aggression, 100's of millions even, remember the conqueror writes history. Even the roman empire feared jewish power. Over and over again, whites, particularly semites have distorted truth through their supremacist, zenophobic minds. Ariel Sharon Oct of 2001 per Kol Israel, "Don't worry about america, we control america and the americans know it." There is a mental pathology gripping my tribe, as the native americans say, "white man have forked tongue", we must become enlightened, or we will be destroyed.

And here's another gem:

The Jews have 9,000 prisoners the Arabs have 3.
It's the Jews that are trying to push the Arabs into the sea by occupying and annexing their land, bulldozing refugee camps and orchards.
The Jews are killing the Arabs on a ratio of 10 to 1.
The Palestinians live in a prison, no way in or out without passing through an abusive Jewish guard gate.
The Jews demand that the Pals. disarm prior to any negotiating of what if anything they'll get back. That is called begging not negotiating.
Nearly 3/4 of the entire Jewish population was exterminated. If you can't tell us why, We are stuck with logic and commonsense.
I'm saying Jews instead of Israelis because I read the Israeli newspapers, the "Israeli Lobby" papers and have seen the House vote 410-8 in support Israel while the UN typically votes 191-4 against Israel. Also the billions in aid and military equipment are conspicuous. The world court unanimously voted against Israel.
By blaming Hitler you don't have to face the truth.
I will stop condemning Jews when they become acclimated with all people.
Stop professing to know and start reading.

When that last passage was observed by one of the earliest critics of MoveOn.org it was "agreed with" by 9 out of 12 MoveOn readers who bothered to rank it. 75% of MoveOn.org activists who had a strong enough opinion to express it in public about the above attack on Jews supported it.

In 2010 a report was released that showed hate crimes against Jews had increased in America. For the last decade, hate crimes against Jews have increased every year. Yet I have never heard anyone attack the Left for using violent anti-Jewish rhetoric aimed at forming alliances with neo-Nazis and jihadists.

There also wasnft much of a to-do from the Left when MoveOn.org was exposed as working on behalf of the Marxist terror group FARC.

Time and again when the George Soros-funded MoveOn.org was shown sinking to unfathomable depths of racist depravity they were allowed to simply remove the offending posts and continue operations as usual. They are not the only leftist group that has used the violent rhetoric of White Nationalism to rally their base.

Daily Kos diarists are known for extreme anti-Semitism. One diarist with the handle Beezling published a post explaining how good he felt every time an I.D.F. trooper was killed. That Kossack was "investigative journalist" Alex Brant-Zawadzki, who currently writes slanderous articles about the Tea Party for Huffington Post. The Left has clearly not distanced itself from his violent and hateful rhetoric.

Former Kossack and current "Palestinian activist" Haitham Sabbah posted large quantities of anti-Semitic material to Daily Kos, which was near universally approved of. Perhaps the most infamous example was his use of a video produced by the White Nationalist Vanguard News Network in a post critical of Jewish influence on American politics.

So severe was Daily Kose anti-Semitic rhetoric that one Jewish Kossack posted a diary detailing his disgust with the amount of Jew hatred on the site - at which point dozens of Kossacks showed up to call him a Jewy Jew.

Is Daily Kos responsible, at least in part, for the rise in anti-Jewish hate crimes?

There is something about the ideology of the so called gnetrootsh that attracts White Nationalists, neo-Nazis and other Jew haters. In 2006 one moderator at Democratic Underground expressed frustration at the site being overrun with David Duke supporters. Early in 2009 Think Progress ran a hit piece on Rick Santelli that ended up having to have its comment section closed due to comments like this:

Santelli is just another rich thug. Odds are good hefs a crackpot Zionist who thinks itfs okay to give billions to loser, Jewish owned and run banks but not to loser home owners. Okay to give money to Jewish owned and run investment banks, but donft help the auto industry which employs millions of honest Americans.

I say we nail the Zionists to a cross.

Ifm still waiting to see a denouncement of all this hate by the commenters now blaming Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh for the Tuscon massacre even though there is a much clearer link between leftist anti-Semitism and violence than there is between conservative troop rallying and the actions of a pot smoking, left-leaning 9/11 truther.

Which doesnft really bother me because I donft blame Daily Kos, Think Progress or Democratic Underground for the people who commit hate crimes against Jews. I do think they cater to them, but leftism is the product of the world view that sees class and race warfare as the natural state of things. Claiming the Left causes anti-Semitism is like claiming drug dealers cause addiction. Drug dealers exist because there are people who want drugs, and anti-Semitism exists because there are people who want to hate. The Left may have moral responsibility in profiting off anti-Semitism, but they donft cause anti-Jewish violence.

A personfs ideology may influence the targets he or she selects but it doesnft change whether or not they are criminals. The heated rhetoric of activists on either side of the political spectrum are no more responsible for violence than Jodie Foster is responsible for Hinckleyfs attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan.

But the Left does attract more violent people into its fold than the right, as Michelle Malkin rightfully points out. Of course, more meth users are attracted to living in trailer parks which doesnft mean double wides cause meth addiction. The activist Left is the trailer park of American politics, so it will have more than its share of tweakers.

But I would never call for them to be silenced. Thatfs the real difference between the Left and the Right. The amoral left is using the actions of a drug addled degenerate for political gain, hoping to author new gun control laws and limits on free speech using the blood of innocents as ink. But the blood of innocent Jews is even now flowing in the streets of our cities without condemnation from anyone on the vile anti-Semitism that is part and parcel of the American Left.

I guess that's the good kind of hateful and violent rhetoric.

Sadly there are some influenced by a media that is really only concerned with advancing their political agenda. In every case, simple logic and an open mind reveals their true motives, as follows:

1) They state only partial facts to try and make their case.

2) They use a tragedy as an opportunity to advance their politics without any evidence of a connection.

3) They don't see that they are the ones who are stoking the flames of division and anger by lumping decent Americans in with fringe elements of society and by pointing out the extreme with one sided rhetoric.

Case in point. Caspian copies a 15 month old article which tries to lump the Tea party, right wing media, conservatives and the Republicans in with a radical group talking about staging a coup. Simple logic reveals their game with one sentence:

"However, the column appears to have encouraged an already angry group of anti-Obama radicals who have been plotting violence against the government."

The column "appears" to have encouraged an already angry group? Appears? Is that the same as saying this mentally unstable shooter "appears" to have been encouraged by right wing rhetoric? Does the word appears equal a fact? Let me reveal to you what this biased media is really saying:

"Lets blame ALL those with an opposing view from ours of encouraging violence, by linking them with an already violent radical element with the hopes of keeping them silent."

Sorry to inform these hypocrites but this is still America, the home of the free and the brave. We will not keep silent but decent people will speak up against ALL injustice that is based on truth, not one-sided exaggerations or fabrications to push an agenda. No honest person confesses the sins of others and chooses to ignore their own sins. One sided finger pointing results only in endless partisan bickering and more rhetoric from BOTH sides.

.. Its AMAZING (yet VERY VERY telling) that some liberals are still blaming Palin, look at the first 2 posts here and its all you need to know

.. Instead of listening, they see Palin and want to scream/shout as loud as they can. They criticise her when shes quiet on the shootings and then they criticise her when she talks about it 2 days later, (defending herself when the VERY SAME LIBERALS BLAME HER!!) The ugly left is truly revealing their colors more and more everyday for all Americans 2 see

.. The NYTimes (Krugman) had a article 2 hours later ( thats 2 whole hrs, ladies/gents) the left wing media networks (MSN on the net) all mentioned Palin within hours of the shooting --- it was a disgracefull and partison attack yet again by the media in this country on the right!

.. When the Conservatives/Palin comes back and rightfully defends themselves, the left wants them to be quite, which one is it? You cant have it both way partison hacks!

.. Both sides use terms and maps , Clinton, Carville, Steponopolous used the terms 'war room' in the 1990s, look at the 'Anti Bush' rhetoric in the recent past, look at a anti war protest, a anti global protest and you will see violence and anger 10X more than a teaparty rally

.. Its time for the dialogue to begin, but its also time for the media and left to STOP attacking the right at every single opportunity, dont stand and point fingers when your just as accountable (perhaps even MORE accountable) -- the double standard and hypocracy has 2 end now!

Case in point. Caspian copies a 15 month old article which tries to lump the Tea party, right wing media, conservatives and the Republicans in with a radical group talking about staging a coup. Simple logic reveals their game with one sentence:

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Mike G.

The Rightwing Republican party are radicals.......


....... PERIOD.

They cost the taxpayers 70 million dollars invesigating the Clinton's and came up with NOTHING.

Oh Yeah, Monica.

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Rightist Indignation
GOP Insider Vic Gold Launches a Broadside at the State of the Party
http://tinyurl.com/yodcq8
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/01/AR2007040101211.html

Bush Republicans Dangerous To USA Democracy

Former Top Judge Says US Risks Edging Near to Dictatorship
· Sandra Day O'Connor warns of rightwing attacks
· Lawyers 'must speak up' to protect judiciary
http://tinyurl.com/24l3fb / March 13, 2006

Sandra Day O'Connor, a Republican-appointed judge who retired last month after 24 years on the supreme court, has said the US is in danger of edging towards dictatorship if the party's rightwingers continue to attack the judiciary.

In a strongly worded speech at Georgetown University, reported by National Public Radio and the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin, Ms O'Connor took aim at Republican leaders whose repeated denunciations of the courts for alleged liberal bias could, she said, be contributing to a climate of violence against judges.

Ms O'Connor, nominated by Ronald Reagan as the first woman supreme court justice, declared: "We must be ever-vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary."
She pointed to autocracies in the developing world and former Communist countries as lessons on where interference with the judiciary might lead. "It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings."
Such threats, Ms O'Connor said, "pose a direct threat to our constitutional freedom", and she told the lawyers in her audience: "I want you to tune your ears to these attacks ... You have an obligation to speak up.
She noted death threats against judges were on the rise and added that the situation was not helped by a senior senator's suggestion that there might be a connection between the violence against judges and the decisions they make.
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/headlines06/0313-03.htm

#1, Mississippi
Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3
Permissive gun laws: 4th out of 50

#2, Arizona
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15
Permissive gun laws: 1st out of 50

#3, Alaska
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 11th out of 50

#4, Arkansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.1
Permissive gun laws: 7th out of 50

#5, Louisiana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 19.9
Permissive gun laws: 23rd out of 50

#6, New Mexico
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15
Permissive gun laws: 6th out of 50

#7, Alabama
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 27th out of 50

#8, Nevada
Gun deaths per 100,000: 16.2
Permissive gun laws: 22nd out of 50

#9, Montana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5
Permissive gun laws: 10th out of 50

#10, Wyoming
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5
Permissive gun laws: 8th out of 50

#11, Kentucky
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.4
Permissive gun laws: 5th out of 50

#12, West Virginia
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.8
Permissive gun laws: 25th out of 50

#13, Tennessee
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15
Permissive gun laws: 31st out of 50

#14, Oklahoma
Gun deaths per 100,000: 13.4
Permissive gun laws: 17th out of 50

#15, Idaho
Gun deaths per 100,000: 12.5
Permissive gun laws: 2nd out of 50

#16, Georgia
Gun deaths per 100,000: 13.1
Permissive gun laws: 13th out of 50

#17, Missouri
Gun deaths per 100,000: 12.9
Permissive gun laws: 12th out of 50

#18, South Carolina
Gun deaths per 100,000: 13.4
Permissive gun laws: 20th out of 50

#19, North Carolina
Gun deaths per 100,000: 12.3
Permissive gun laws: 28th out of 50

#20, Florida
Gun deaths per 100,000: 12.5
Permissive gun laws: 41st out of 50

#21, Kansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 10.5
Permissive gun laws: 14th out of 50

Hey Pete,Your grandfather sounds like a great man. People today could still live the life and be happy the way he was. Society tries to brainwash you into thinking you need the best (most expensive) of the best. When in reality, the best things in life are free. Love, family, friends, a job you like (it doesnt have to pay all that well!) People become caught up in the game and become greedy. Trying to make the most money no matter what it takes. Money is overrated. It changes people too. But you know what it was that taught me to appreciate the real things that make life worth living? Technology. You can almost see what is good and what is bad and the internet provides you with both outlooks. I have seen so many things online and read so much that I realize that it isnt money that will make me happy. It is what I have in my heart. Whatever it is that makes you truly happy to be alive (and it never should be money.) That is what you live for. I would much rather love a man that had nothing, so long as he loved me than love a man that had everything but was too caught up in it that he never could actually see me for who I am. Call me a hopeless romantic but I would rather choose that way of life than become engulfed in the worlds fixation on superficial possessions.