The Bain Years: Does Romney’s Record Show That He’s a Job-Creator or a Firer-in-Chief?

January 11th, 2012   (180 views )

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Comment from: Mike G [Visitor] Email
Really does it matter? It is not like the current President is creating jobs.

Are you kidding me? For sure we have nothing to lose with Romney and maybe even a chance to gain.
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Comment from: Mike G [Visitor] Email
Hey Q this sounds a lot like our discussions. Buffett and the Congress might be getting their ideas from the RNN message board...LOL


"It restores my faith in human nature to think that there are people who have been around Washington all this time and are not yet so cynical as to think that can't be solved by voluntary contributions," the Buffett told Time for an article hitting newsstands on Friday.

"Senator McConnell says that Washington should be smaller, rather than taxes getting bigger. And since some, like President Obama and Mr. Buffett want to pay higher taxes, Congress made it possible for them to call their own bluff and send in a check," said Don Stewart, McConnell's deputy chief of staff.

Buffett to Republicans: if you pay, so will I

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/buffett-gop-pay-211046623.html
PermalinkPermalink 01/11/12 @ 19:11
Comment from: John--- [Visitor] Email
McConnell will have to eat his words and choke on them if he doesn't comply.

Especially since his pet peeves and complaints have always been about reducing government spending he now has only two options. Take a pay cut and encourage everyone else in his party and the rest of Congress to do the same .
Or, do the right thing and pony up to cut the deficit as he admonishes the rest of us to do.

HORRAY, ONCE AGAIN TO WARREN BUFFETT FOR HIS GENIUS. FINALLY, HE'S GOT MCCONNELL THE ORIGINAL "CABBAGE PATCH KID" RIGHT WHERE WE ALL WANT HIM.


Yum, yum... Eat 'em up!hahahaha
PermalinkPermalink 01/11/12 @ 20:59
Comment from: Mike G [Visitor] Email
John, not just McConnell but the Republicans, the Democrats, Buffett and Obama too.

Wouldn't that be something meaning what they say and leading by example. I can't wait!
PermalinkPermalink 01/11/12 @ 23:23
Romney the admitted and card carrying spear carrier of the "free enterpriser" brand impersonal and devoid of human qualitys. Nothing more than a "talking head" w/ a "too big to fail" vulture staff replete with oodles of money enough to consume then overtake then crush any smaller businesses dreams.

Open these links from a previous board for more details and verification on the premise layed before you.
Permalink 01/12/12 @ 07:25
See: Permalink 01/12/12 @ 09:30

PermalinkPermalink 01/12/12 @ 09:44
Hey Caspian, You don't have to look now but, somebody is gaining on the Romney-bot, and Obama. ...coming up fast with furious and feverous support.

http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-may-mitt-romneys-only-challenger-040600494.html

MSM and THE PONZI SCHEMING STATUS QUO ESTABLISHMENT can't ignore Ron Pauls.
massive uprising support from disenfranchised Republican conservatives, liberals, youth, America 1st groups, our enlisted military, Independents, the jobless, and of course OWS democrats. WHAT A DIVERSE AND WONDERFUL COALITION!

Tea Partiers and OWS seem ready to unite at a moments notice. Combine with the many more millions still sitting on the fence who are losing their patience with the Republican-Democrat do nothing NO JOBS CREATING, "GLOBALIST" CORPORATE ECONOMY DESTROYERS OF AMERICAN IDEALS CONGRESS beginning to jump en masse behind Ron Paul for the return of their constitutional rights to achieve the inalienable specifics LIFE, GROUNDED IN LIBERTY, WITH THE PURSUIT OF JUSTICE W/O REGARD TO POMPOUS ELITIST STATUS AND SELF-MANDATED PROTOCOLS BY A "BOUGHT AND SOLD" CONGRESS.



Ron Paul ups the stakes. He brings the 99%'s issues to the tables. Obama already being hit from petitions MoveOn.org to PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DELIBERATELY DESTROYED OUR ECONOMY WHETHER IT BE FOUND TO BE DELIBERATE OR BY THE CONVENIENT ILLUSION OF LACK OF PROVIDING CORRECT INSTITUTIONAL OVERSIGHTS AND PROFITTED.


This will be a fight to the finish.
Ron Paul has the masses behind him that call for change that Obama failed to deliver.
Obama and Romney, & MSM, and Congress, now find themselves with their backs to the wall- and "must satisfy" in actions, or in promises, in order to recruit and sway voters away from the RON PAUL REVOLUTION.

Time is running out on NWO and the globalist "free enterprise" system of elitism. Tick, tick, ...tick.

Watch closely! Will Obama submit to MoveOn's petitions and demands in order to reatain the left?

Will Republicans be forced to retreat from their WELFARE FOR THE RICH positions as Dylan Ratigan's contigent of Wall St and political experts descend on their strongholds with the startling facts and figures presented in a simple plain English format that even ther most rabid redneck or fundamentalist can fully understand detailing- the how's, and where's, and who told and provided insider committee info, and whoturned this info into profit, right down to the very last stock option derivative sell-off.

Top off all that's happening politically with all the massive lay offs and wage cuts- ... and VOILA!!!

I am beginning to see CHANGE as an inevitable force of nature descending upon the deceitful.

PermalinkPermalink 01/12/12 @ 11:00
Comment from: Mike G [Visitor] Email
John, I support free enterprise, free individuals and liberty for everyone. Unfortunately, as with any freedom there are always those that will abuse that liberty. This is why I also support labor laws like the 40hr work week, elimination of loopholes for big business and the principle that the more one contributes to a particular cause or labor, the more that person deserves in return.

This idea of redistributing wealth for "balance" is not American Capitalism it is not even American values in my opinion.

No candidate is perfect, not even Ron Paul but if my only viable choice turns out to be Romney, I will gladly vote for him and look forward to a better America, then the America we have now.

Are you that desperate that you need sore loser Gingrich to try and make your case?
PermalinkPermalink 01/12/12 @ 11:17
Comment from: Mike G [Visitor] Email
Ron Paul is the peoples candidate and supports American values. He is not part of the Republican establishment, nor is he part of the Democrat, "increase of government in our lives" cause. So he will have a tough fight but I support him.
PermalinkPermalink 01/12/12 @ 11:28
Comment from: john--- [Visitor] Email
MikeG: Free enterpriser is a corruption of the used to be our domestic capitalist system. Capitalists of the post WWII era knew that they had to pay their rightful share in taxes back toward community reinvestment for the lives committed that protected their survival.
Free enterprisers entertain the notion that "legally" they can utilize their wiles and influence, to become tax freeloaders, with a chest out full blown superiority complex, detesting every penny paid to taxes that might otherwise have gone or gotten to their coffers.
Free enterprisers want protection and demand American subserviance to their overseas dealings and investments but, don't pay a cent in tribute for the wars, fiscal resources, or lives lost that are committed in their names when their policies go bust.

FREE ENTERPRISERS DEMAND AND EXPECT SUPERIOR TREATMENT- JUST BECAUSE THEY DROP "THE WORDS". THEY ARE, IN THEIR OWN OPINION, "ABOVE IT ALL".
I've been to more of those seminars than I care to admit. So, I know the deal.
Rah, rah ...make money. Rah, rah regurgiate the corporate speal. Rah, rah, be relentless, leave no stone unturned. Promises of pie in the sky, OWNERSHIP SOCIETYS, and vineyards on secluded untaxable foreign isles. YOUR REWARDS ARE UNLIMITED. We have a tax loophole marked just for you. ...la dee da dee da. THE WHOLE PHIL GRAMM, GWB, C...bank/Tr... PONZI SCHEMING GAMUT.
That once given the transparency of light, and more careful inspection, were all scams to pull away lifetime well funded investments for a lifetime of new indentured repayments to the buyer.

Say it ain't so, Mike. Say it ain't so.
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You can't have a strong nation without realizing that it takes an equal mix of "brick material" [ordinary solid people] and a blend of quality adhesive "mortar" [fluid keen minded individuals] that adapt to lay a solid foundation.

While terms cannot define everyone it is safe to say the the term "free enterpriser" was ushered in at the every same time of Reaganomics. and the trickle down economy that hasn't yielded its first drop of water under Republican leadership.
Job reducers is the more absolute truth of the matter, which saw millions of job losses during it's hayday, and is immensely more accurate.

The Gingrich referral tied in with the permalink left earlier, nothing more. Did you read it?

Bet you don't know how many jobs the private sector laid-off this week?
How do NO TAX PAYING "free enterprisers" resolve to offset still more "deficit" additions as these losses to projected collectable tax revenues are compiled.

Remember my good friend that "free enterprisers" are supposed to be the new age idea men. Let's see if you've got the moxey to live up to your declaration. Let's see a cutting edge solution that isn't waiting for someone else to make the first move or stalls because, everyone else isn't contributing.

I know and adamently agree that we shouldn't allow the private sector to be shredded as acceptable collateral damage for liquidation profiteers and stand united in cause with them.
I am looking for a free enterpriser who isn't a patsie for NWO globalism or trickle down status quos.

I just saw your last post. Ron Paul it is.
UNITED WE STAND!


PermalinkPermalink 01/12/12 @ 13:38
Comment from: John--- [Visitor] Email
Caution: Is anybody opening up the spam mailers postings?
PermalinkPermalink 01/12/12 @ 17:28
Comment from: Mike G [Visitor] Email
"Free Enterprise totally undermines the more balanced rewards and social contributions, attached to "American capitalism..
Free Enterprisers sets forth the notion of every man for himself, everyone else is your enemy, greed is good aspects as the pinnacle of aspiration.
Free enterprisers have conversely given us "outsourcing", "off-shore tax havens","downsizing", "deregulation", and "greed on steriods" without any concern or regard for the affect of what this vulture has on others.
It was the shadow practioners and the druid financiers behind the notion of this so called "free" enterprising gave the impression that "free" trade agreements were fair .."- John

John, in reference to your above statements, do you remember the following guy?

He had free-enterprise and pro-entrepreneurship views.
He started multiple billion-dollar companies.
In 2000, he endorsed George W. Bush for President and in 2008 he endorsed Mitt Romney.
His quote, "Most new jobs won't come from our biggest employers. They will come from our smallest. We've got to do everything we can to make entrepreneurial dreams a reality."
He made history as the most successful third-party Presidential candidate, receiving 18.9% of the popular vote in the 1992 Presidential Election.
And most importantly - He warned that if NAFTA was implemented there would be a "giant sucking sound" as millions of jobs left this country.

So John, how is it that a billionaire, free enterprise business man desperately tries to warn us about the millions of jobs that will leave this country, while a Democratic president "gets the wrong impression that "free" trade agreements were fair"?

Lets think of it another way. Suppose in a free country you walk down the street and get mugged. Should we establish a curfew and eliminate freedom? Of course not! And whose to blame if you get mugged? Of Course, it is the mugger to blame. But who is to blame if you get mugged and there are 10 policemen who see it and do nothing?

John, you are right about the problem but only half right about the source. All your statements point to the mugger but not one points to the big government establishment in charge, who is not doing their job and who does not represent You and I. That is why Ron Paul supports small government.
PermalinkPermalink 01/12/12 @ 20:18
Comment from: Caspian OWS [Visitor] Email · http://theapprovedcard.com/index.php
Hey Caspian, You don't have to look now but, somebody is gaining on the Romney-bot, and Obama. ...coming up fast with furious and feverous support. John.

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Ron Paul received millions and millions of votes all across America in 2008 and was not allowed to speak at the Republican convention.

The phony tea party governor in South Carolina already endorsed Romney.

I just watched a couple of hours of Cspan where there was a very interesting conversation about poverty in America.

Tavis Smiley was the host.

http://www.insightcced.org/

http://www.majoracartergroup.com/

http://theapprovedcard.com/index.php


PermalinkPermalink 01/12/12 @ 21:31
Comment from: Gail [Visitor] Email

DEPENDS WHICH WAY IS THE WIND BLOWING!


Obama campaigned that he was going to create JOBS! "YES WE CAN"
PermalinkPermalink 01/13/12 @ 13:02
Comment from: Gail [Visitor] Email
THERE ARE NO JOBS BECAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT THE FAST BUCK! THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SERVICE TODAY WHETHER IT IS WALMART OR THE FRANCHISE FAST FOODS. AND, THERE IS NO COMFORT--NO CUSHIONS--HARD PLASTIC SEATS. UNI9TED STATES USE TO BE ALL ABOUT LUXURY AND COMFORT AND SERVICE!

TODAY, THE PAYING PUBLIC HAS NO SERVICE!

The People have the power more than the government to create jobs, E.G., INSTEAD OF CAFETERIA STYLE EATING, HIRE WAITRESSES.


A guy takes someone to lunch, A GUY who eats at a franchise--NOT THE GUY WHO EATS AT THE 21 CLUB--AND HAS TO WAIT ON HIMSELF!


and ALL THIS MULTI-TASKING PUTS MORE AND MORE STRESS ON THE EMPLOYEES FOR GREED FOR TEH OWNER.

The employee has to do one job and do it right, thereby creating jobs.

And what about people's lunch hour, OR HALF HOUR OR NO HOUR? People use to take a lunch hour and dine or shop.



These candidates, similar to Obama, give lip service to creating jobs NOW TO GET ELECTED AND THAT IS ABOUT ALL THAT BECOMES OF IT!
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Comment from: Gail [Visitor] Email
P.S.

DO ONE THING AND DO IT RIGHT.

AND, THE INTERDEPENDENCY OF PEOPLE IIN THE COMMUNITY,

one stop shopping, or MALLS, HAVE STREAMLINED SHOPPING TO BE DONE IN ONE PLACE IN ONE STORE, BUT HAVE ELIMINATED LOTS OF JOBS AND LARGER PROFITS FOR THE OWNER SELLING ONLY THE HOT ITEMS.

THE People have THE POWER TO CREATE JOBS, IF THE PEOPLE SLOW DOWN.


E.G., A HOT, ROASTED CHICKEN OUT OF THE OVEN BEATS AN ALREADY COOKED, LUKE WARM CHICKEN IN THE DELI SUPERMARKETS E.G., HANNAFORD.

and the supermarkets or grocery stores are NOT JUST GROCERY STORES TODAY--THEY HAVE FOOD PREPARED AND COOKED AND PRESERVED ALMOST ANY WAY POSSIBLE, INCLUDING WHAT YOU MIGHT GET AT A RESTAURANT.

the grocery stores are restaurants and fast foods today.The grocery stores sell LIQUOR--WINE TODAY. If I want LIQUOR I GO TO THE LIQUOR STORE. NEXT THE LIQUOR STORE WILL BE SELLING BREAD AND MILK, SIMILAR TO THE DRUG STORES TODAY. The liquor stores are ovlaped with the ice cream soda fountaiin, and,

the coffee shops are overlapped with a soda fountain.


Then, the post office sells wrapping paper and tape, etc., which are usually bought at a 5 and 10 cent store, and the grocery store sells stamps, western union and money orders, which is the business of post office. Walmart too sells money orders, western union, etc.




PermalinkPermalink 01/13/12 @ 13:39
Where Have All the Liberals Gone?


January 14, 2012


There are two conservatives for every liberal in America. That's the message of a recent David Brooks column as well as a Gallup survey. I think the imbalance is much starker. I would guess there are four conservatives for every liberal. Maybe even more.

Here's a test I invite you to take. Watch C-Span's morning call-in show and listen to what people who phone in on the "Democrat" or "liberal" line have to say. When is the last time you heard a caller say, "We should all pay higher taxes so that the government can provide us with universal day care"? Or how about, "We should all pay higher taxes so the government can provide us with universal long term care"? I bet you can't remember ever hearing that.

Here is what I suspect you will hear: Teachers complaining that teachers aren't paid enough. Union members complaining about competition from workers overseas. Senior citizens whining about the meagerness of Social Security or Medicare benefits. Minority callers advocating more affirmative action. And what is the common denominator of these comments? Self-interest.

Yes, I know. Special interests are in both parties. Why wouldn't they be? Yet as I wrote in my analysis of "progressivism," the left in America has elevated special interest privilege to an art form.

Here's the point: people wanting more, more, more are nothing more than people pursuing their own self interest in politics. They are not in principle different from any other special interest group. Importantly, they have nothing in common with what we normally have in mind by the term "liberalism."

There is a reason for that. There are very few people around who want to give government more power over their money, their property or their lives. And Brooks is probably right about the reason why: Most people don't trust government. In fact, only 10 percent trust the government to do the right thing most of the time, according to opinion polls.

Here is a second test. Keep watching C-Span. After the outside callers are gone, most days you get to watch Congress in action. Have you ever watched a series of speeches on the House floor? Have you ever watched a real Congressional debate? Try it some time. Then ask yourself this question: Do you trust the people you are watching on TV to manage your retirement pension? Or do you have more confidence in your employer or Fidelity or even Merrill Lynch? Do you trust the people on the House floor to manage your health care? Or do you have more confidence in your employer or even UnitedHealthcare or Aetna?

Congress in action most days reminds us of school children insulting and taunting each other. It's like a group of adolescents desperately in need of adult supervision. It's the opposite of the civil, rational deliberation that the Founding Fathers must have hoped for.

It takes a very special kind of person to watch lunacy in action and then decide to give the lunatics more control over your life. There are such special people, of course. They are disproportionately congregated in Hollywood, on the campuses of the nation's colleges and universities and in the elite news media. What are the common characteristics all too many of them share? Arrested development (they never bothered to grow up), aversion to the rest of humanity (they really are elitists), a lack of common sense (they've never really managed anything) and a failure to master the syllogism (they approach the world emotionally, not logically).

Here is something you need to understand: liberalism is not an ideology. It's a sociology. It's not a way of thinking. It's a way of responding to the world emotionally.

What was the core issue during the dispute over the constitutionality of ObamaCare's requirement that everyone buy health insurance? It was whether there are any limits to government power. If the government can force you to buy health insurance, can it also require you to eat broccoli every day, one federal judge asked. Surprisingly, liberals in general refused to draw a line on the hypothetical broccoli mandate. They were unwilling to say that it's unconstitutional for the government to tell you what you must eat for lunch.

Then George Stephanopoulos during the Republican presidential debate the other night surprised Governor Romney with a truly off-the-wall question: Do you think state governments should be able to outlaw contraceptives? Romney was nonplused, as were the other candidates. They can be forgiven for not knowing that all true liberals believe that it is unconstitutional for government to tell you what contraceptives you can and can't use.

Think about that. It's permissible for government to tell you that you must eat broccoli, but impermissible for government to tell you that you can't have a contraceptive. Anyone who thinks this way isn't thinking at all. He's emoting.

That's why you don't find very many real liberals in places like Dallas, Cincinnati or Indianapolis. But you do find a lot of people in those cities who are self-interested. If liberals get votes in cities like these, it is only because they are appealing to self-interest.
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